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January 6th, 2010 by stephan | Industry News, Model News
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You might not associate Karl Lagerfeld with the seductive world of burlesque but apparently the Kaiser has developed an interest in the art of striptease! Lagerfeld shoots iconic burlesque performer Dirty Martini for a tongue in cheek editorial that is sure to set tongues wagging.

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  1. Samira says:

    I’m sorry, but I don’t like the V editorial and I don’t like the compare between thin and not thin. With Jaqueline …
    It’s not that nice
    http://allaboutmodels.blogspot.com/

  2. MACK says:

    WOW..no comments yet!! lol..I Just LOVE this..Thats all I have to say!!

  3. Alexis says:

    I like this pic..very diffrent for me, but in a great way!

  4. maxx says:

    i love it its fresh and new about time ….

  5. Antonio Barros says:
  6. gogo says:

    The very iconic and idealized foundation of fashion has seemingly been reduced to the paltry, sweaty, and excreting world of brothels and lustful distaste, all hail…

  7. LD says:

    I love that Karl chose to shoot her. Wasn’t it him that said that quote about overweight moms or something? Or was it him that called Hedi Klum fat? Anyways, I’m glad that he’s not only open to shoot models who are a size 0.

  8. Nigel S. says:

    Fun times 12! (No pun intended). This is what fashion should be more about. Some love to romanticize fashion only as a singular, stringent and exclusionary entity (which is true in many cases). But it is infact about the jovial side of life..in essence.
    This 4th edit represents that for me. Let’s inject some fun back into fashion!

    Jane Schmitt is such a ringer for Coco. Holiest of Godsend!

  9. Matimus says:

    Ugh.

  10. tony l says:

    ugh is right. this is turning into a mockery rather than a revolution

  11. The PlumPinay says:

    I like it! It’s so vintage-chic! It’s definitely embracing Miss Dirty Martini’s background of burlesque dancing.

    –Click our blog for more plumpness :)

  12. hamilton says:

    LOVE THIS PICS!!!!

    she’s H.O.T!!
    Karl too!!

    http://culture-mode.blogspot.com/

  13. Melody says:

    The images, although quite aesthetically beautiful, look rather distasteful. I understand that they want to show that curves can be beautiful by showing a voluptuous woman showing off the parts of the body a woman is least comfortable with and most sensitive towards, but (except for the close up of the face) it looks very unflattering. It sends a more slutty message than a positive one.

    It’s disappointing that a Size issue is equated with concentrating on plus size women. What happened to range? How about women who are in between the extremes of too skinny and too fat? I guess it’s not important for women who are of a healthier size and care to take better care of themselves to be embraced.

  14. J says:

    Weird, I thought Karl Lagerfeld hated fat women.

  15. Alexandra says:

    hmmm…not so much. it’s just a joke

  16. Rachel says:

    Wow! I freaking love this photo. Its been a long time coming that real sized women are being represented in high fashion. Brovo she is hot. Please do more editorials like this.

  17. Kate Larkin says:

    Wow, Dirty Martini is sexy and gorgeous! I love the juxtaposition of the black and white with her creamy skin. All hail, for reals! Totally fabulous pictures, thank you.

  18. Svetlana says:

    I think what it’s photo very interesting.

  19. Bevin says:

    Dirty Martini is ferocious!! This is an amazing pictorial and such a gorgeous juxtaposition between the old guard of fashion and new. “In order to be irreplaceable one must always be different.”–Coco Chanel

  20. Mel De Barbuat says:

    Quelle Chic!!!!

  21. pepper says:

    if they corrected her skin in the final image, why didn’t they retouch her freckles in the reflection?

  22. Irene says:

    I am sorry, I have nothing against people who are overweight but these pictures are distasteful.

  23. Ms Ruby Vixen says:

    Dirty Martini is simply stunning. All Hail Dirty!!! Big girls for the win! Pepper- I do agree though- it’s strange that they didn’t ‘correct’ the reflection, although i think shes even more gorgeous with the freckles. :-)

  24. The Lady Aye says:

    @Melody How do you know Dirty’s not healthy? She’s a professional performer, ballet teacher and has a degree in dance. Is Kate Moss healthier? I somehow doubt it.

    I think healthy self-esteem and healthy sexuality are a far better role model than positing “skinny” as the ultimate in beauty.

  25. Glen says:

    hmmm I wonder if Karl Lagerfeld actually sanctioned this or if he is just lending his name to it. I love the spread I still don’t trust him as far as I can spit though.

  26. Diamond Minx says:

    LOL they aren’t freckles. The side mirrors are textured.

  27. Diamond Minx says:

    Many people would probably be surprised how difficult it can be for a larger woman to find “sexy” clothing. Yes, these images are very sexualized, but they are also images of a highly respected woman who earns her living as a performer and teacher, displaying a body that is not “media friendly”. I think these images are deliberately shocking – because the much of the general public isn’t used to seeing a woman who looks like this portrayed this way. Personally I think it’s a breath of fresh air!

    @Glen: Karl Lagerfeld was the photographer, and I understand was instrumental behind the concept of the shoot.

  28. Sparkly Devil says:

    I love the dingbats posting comments about how “slutty” and “distasteful” this shoot is — God forbid that a beautiful, voluptuous woman show even the slightest inkling of bold, confident sexuality. If you want slutty and distasteful, may I kindly direct you to the nearest American Apparel ad.

    Congrats to Miss Dirty Martini and all involved. This is an absolutely stunning collaboration.

  29. Melissa says:

    Personally this whole “big is beautiful” is completely irresponsible. Glorifying obesity is absolutely disgusting. They cause the health care systems billion in complications from heart disease to diabetes. All this spread did for me was make me shudder. Karl Lagerfeld is a wonderful artist and because he would rather have an aesthetic that is “unrealistic” to some people, because they have no self control, he is vilified. He did the best he could for what he chose to shoot.

  30. Driver says:

    Love the new direction Karl is attempting. Male model Quel White will be great for Chanel & Lagerfeld.

  31. michael says:

    Great image!

    LMFAO!…as if being a size ZERO is healthy, attainable, or even attractive. ALL women are real, but their should be a range of what actually exists in the world, as opposed to what the misogynist gay nazis, and their enablers push as “fashion”.

  32. Saffron says:

    There’ something distatseful initally about this image, and I don’t know if it’s just because I am not used to seeing any like it. I say props to the model. She looks exuberant.

  33. Laila says:

    I agree so much with Melody. This is not what I was expecting. I thought they would have normal size women not women who appear to be overweight. Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying that I have a hate toward overweight women but I thought that the point of the issue is to promote healthy, average size women, not show pictures of women that are reaching a point of unhealthy on another extreme. Also the photos are not flattering and just look like she is trying too hard. I am disappointed.

  34. coco says:

    who knew the elderly fatty hater had it in him

  35. Maya says:

    OH MY G!!! I looove these photos I cant wait to buy the magazine! Im so glad that theres a revolution coming about in fashion we are seeing more and more pluz size woman! The shots: Amazing the style:Amazing the model:Amazing and Im so glad Karl Lagerfeld is doing this he is starting to earn back my respect. Good job V magazine!

  36. Sasha says:

    love her!

  37. Yves S. Victoria says:

    We think that though the pictures are well-done. Both extremes are unhealthy.

    http://yvesonvictoria.wordpress.com

    We discussed it too. We want to know, where are the normal girls, or rather the healthy ones. Put them in magazines

  38. Warren Wright says:

    I’m sorry, but this editorial is just pure bullshit.
    I don’t get the theme at all.
    if they were going to do a Chanel editorial, at least give her clothes to make it believable.

    The FAINDENT A FASHION BLOG
    http://www.thefaindent.blogspot.com

  39. Fanny says:

    J’adore! These photos are divine. I am thrilled and completely excited to see the entire V issue. Being a plus size woman for all of my life, I have come to love my curves and all that they represent. There is beauty in everyone and we should not overlook that, no matter what their size is. The industry need to continue to move forward and accept and embrace women of all sizes. No one deserves to be put down because of the number on the scale. Continue to embrace our curves ladies and love yourselves. You are number one and when you love and accept yourself, you can face anything!

  40. Dirty Martini says:

    Hi Everybody! Dirty Martini here and I’m so happy about this amazing discourse. When was the last time ANYONE saw a high fashion spread in a major fashion magazine featuring any plus size model without a discussion of body issues? This issue isn’t even promoting my theater and dance career in any way. I was asked to pose for the wonderful Karl Lagerfeld because V Mag knew me as a voluptuous burlesque performer. Some folks who aren’t exposed to artful nudity or joyous sexuality may be upset by the nudity in these images. I completely understand, but I hope that this little hiccup in the fashion landscape will not sour anyone to a broader way of thinking. I don’t currently have health insurance because I’m an American artist, but I’m happy to say I’m not diabetic, I dance and exercise regularly, watch closely what I eat and I happen to have a ton of self control. I also never want a young girl or dancer such as myself to experience the kind of prejudice and eating disorders that I endured because I happen to be a person with pronounced hips, breasts and short legs. I believe that there should be room for everyone in this land built by immigrants so heavy with diversity. I remain most humbly yours with love, joy and an ecstatic 2010, Miss Dirty Martini

  41. Esther De Ville says:

    I LOVE YOU DIRTY MARTINI! You inspire me on a daily bases to be a better person as well as a better performer!! You are the sexiest woman I have ever met!!!

  42. Tanya Cheex says:

    Amen! Regardless of what anyone thinks, I was just pleased as punch to see my friend in a major fashion publication! ;p

  43. D. Luxe says:

    Love ya, Dirty!!!! I’m blogging about you at this very second…

    Some people here that are offended by the “sexual” nature of these photos seem to be missing the point of what burlesque is all about.

  44. LaFantastique says:

    I’m so so so incredibly impressed and in love with these photos. Being overweight has never bothered me, and being comfortable in my body is something I’ve taken pride in. I’ve seen so many people afraid of glamorizing what they’ve got, showing off who they are and being ashamed of what they don’t have that this is like a breath of fresh air!

    I think it’s funny that anyone finds this distasteful when they find absolutely nothing wrong with the same pictures using a thinner, taller model.

    : ) You’re beautiful, Miss Martini, and I’m glad you get to flaunt it!

  45. PlusSizedFeminist says:

    And with that, Miss Martini has silenced the haters with her upbeat nature and truth. She is showing her beauty and grace and size to the world. And Miss Martini, I will be SURE to buy this, just so I can have your beautiful visage.

    As for Karl Lagerfeld, I’m still skeptical, since he has been quoted in saying that nobody wants to see fat women in fashion. Well isn’t it IRONIC how he’s shooting women of size in this. I pray this issue does monumentally well, and prove him absolutely wrong.

  46. Noctula says:

    Why does it have to go from one extreme (size 0) to the other (overweight)? Why not normal sized women? Probably have to wait for that.

  47. Noctula says:

    I still think Karl hates obese women. A panty is not sexy. Why put her in panties instead of silk stockings?

  48. JJ says:

    The pictures from a photographic and fashion view are beautiful and kuddos to the woman for the fact that she is loving and enjoying her body. Yet I cannot be all to enthusiastic about the statement that is being made.

    It seems the fashion industry can only think in extremes. As much as I was disagreeing with skeleton thin women, I am als disagreeing with clearly overweight women. It seems the industry is now overcompensating only to make all women feel good about themselves.

    As stated earlier, in an age of healthy and conscious living but also rising medical health costs, I truly wonder if this ‘new’ view is a healthy one.

    Personally… I do not find it attractive. I rather have a ‘normal’ woman whom enjoys live and its pleasures but also tries to maintain a healthy and active lifestyle. Afterall, our bodies are the temples of our souls (and we need to live with them over a 70 to 100 year time span).

  49. Susanne says:

    I am happy to see a bigger woman. However, why can’t they just make a photoshoot like any other thin model photo shoot, with classy sexy larger women. We are not all like Dirty Martini or Beth Ditto. It would be nice to have some more normal bigger woman in fashion and not only the extravagant types….

  50. Lizane says:

    Amei as fotos!
    Parabéns.

  51. Charm says:

    The fashion industry can prove it’s flexibility and acceptance without taking everything to an extreme (too fat, too skinny, etc.). Good for her for the shoot, the clothes look great, I just didn’t want to see an obese woman half naked no matter how fabulous she is.

    On another note, who cares about the blatant sexuality; half naked-size 2 models are strewn throughout every fashion mag in existence and its called artsy. I think I’ve seen Lara Stone’s breasts more this year than my own. This pictorial is no different.

  52. anna says:

    she’s beautiful but i think this size-debate is just wierd and has taken-to me- a quite ugly turn. as a skinny woman myself i’d like to see sexy shoots like this- with skinny women. i don’t know many editiorials with skinny and sexy women THAT has confidence like this woman and displays a happy and humorous sexuality.

    i often find sexy editorials with skinny women very one-dimensional and boring- like the previous with Iris Strubegger, she’s a beutiful and sexy woman but they chose to just put her in “tough” environment with stiff positions and not so soft face expressions. Skinny women can have a soft and happy sexuality too, i think it’s very disturbing that skinny models just seems to be robots witouth any feelings and a sexuality that is owned by themselves. they shouldn’t need a man to stand in the background of the picture and looking horny to feel sexy.

    No, I say that next time there will be a size issue. Let every size be portrayed fair!

  53. Nigel S. says:

    Perhaps displaying the “extreme” will make things easier for those of lesser size while making life alittle easier for the “extreme”??
    A two bird with one stone kinda deal?

  54. jdiz says:

    LOVE it! beautiful woman and beautiful pictures!

  55. healthy sexuality says:

    seductive pose for this post i must say.hehe
    healthysexuality

  56. Schirley says:

    I looove this! Hopefully this is the first step towards a more healthy view on how women should look to be sexy and desirable..
    It’s just that.. Am I the only one wondering if it is ironic? I mean.. The pictures are not very fashion, they kind off (except for the beautyfull clothes) look like it is a joke.. I hope not, it would be such a shame!

  57. Vivienne VaVoom says:

    She’s an international burlesque star- so like many of the fashion pictorials of Dita Von Teese, I think the stylists were mixing burlesque style with high fashion- taking elements of both to capture Dirty Martini’s burlesque essence while still making something appropriate for a glossy fashion magazine. I think it’s inspired! And inspiring!

  58. Liesbeth says:

    She is a beautifull lady & so much more female than the anorexia-girls.
    I can hear her singing:
    I’m Every Woman, It’s All In Me
    Anything You Want Done, Baby
    I’ll Do It Naturally… (and she does)
    (Shaka Khan)

    Go for it Girl!!! …>”.”<…

    Peace & Love from the Netherlands

  59. DA says:

    ugh. Whose tongues are wagging?

  60. Erica says:

    I LOVE the plus-size model shoot and I am hoping we can see as much size diversity on runways as we see ethnic diversity in the near future!! The two models shown side by side is genius and the important thing you realize is that they are both beautiful. Imagine a time when you don’t have to conform to one standard measurement of beauty and you can feel attractive in your own skin. Is it possible?? I HATE the Karl Lagerfeld shoot. This is coming from the same guy who said “no one wants to see round women.” Yes, the spread is edgy, it’s randy, it’s zany, but ultimately Lagerfeld is making fun of the plus-sized woman in this grotesque shoot. Is this the best he can do? And this guy is talented?

  61. Erin says:

    I think it’s strange and disturbing that all of the plus-sized models are being overly sexualized. They are either nude or nearly nude or vacuum-packed into Lycra leotards. Where is the class? Where are the women looking gorgeous is suits, done up in an YSL like a fantastic Helmut Newton photograph?

    Essentially, the industry is saying that the only way for larger women to be accepted is as sexual objects. Nay, not even that. They are portrayed as deviant sexual objects, fetishized, then relegated to their special issue, to the special bus. This is not inclusion, but the formation of and obsession with a new kind of Other.

    Every issue should be the “size issue,” with every woman in every size from 00-44+ represented. We should combat ageism, call for greater ethnic and cultural diversity. We should see girls with tattoos and piercings, with scarring, with birthmarks. Girls should come down the runway in heights from 5’0 to 6’0, and below, and beyond. We should challenge every standard definition of beauty, because look at all of these women: each one is fucking amazing.

  62. K says:

    :) o yes,….. This is beautiful. Karl,…. Thank you!
    Nice lingerie,…super super!

  63. Erin says:

    P.S. I 100% agree with you Erica. The Terry Richardson shoot was brilliant; the Karl Lagerfeld shoot was offensive.

    But we all know how he feels about fat women, charity, meat, traveling, meetings, people, touching people, love, and children, right? “It is demode”; “I hate it”.

  64. Ajay says:

    I agree with this not being healthy.. While yes, anorexia is a horrible thing, or any eating disorder a model takes on in the name of “beauty” or fashion” is disturbing and sad, so is saying being overweight is okay. Each extreme isn’t okay. Am I glad this woman had the confidence to flaunt her nakedness despite that she’s chubby? Of course! How wonderful it is to be comfortable and feel gorgeous in the body you have! And she is beautiful. But, I think there’s something to be said about eating healthy and working, over being extremely thin or extremely large in the sake of proving points.

    Oberall however, beautiful shoot.

  65. K says:

    @ Erin i think you and Erica are right, but ppl cant change overnight. He is trying to look at fashiondesign in a different way. Negativity doesnt create a posetive vibe. I give him the benefit of the doubt and think he still is searching for the right angle to approuch this new modeltype. I hope in the future he wil take this more serious. But stil i think he deserves credit for this work. Atleast he tried. He could have refused,….I mean he doesnt need the money or status :)

  66. Woggle says:

    Fantastic pics! Those here who are sticking their fingers, fists and feet down their throats over this need to get a gentle whack to the head 9and a spanking!) by Dirty Martini or other full figured gals that do today’s VERY fun live burlesque shows. They’re NOT pornographic, insulting or whatever else your minds are cooking up.

    Hell, if you really want to get that ticked off over something ALL women should be against, go full force after those who put their CHILDREN into pageant after pageant from the time they can stand up. Sorry, but a four or five year old girl dolled up like a cheap tart and forced to dance and sing in order to win a trophy and cash is MORE offensive to me than a grown woman with a body that feels free in her flesh and knows how to show it off.

    Anyway, Here’s a hats off to Miz Martini! Cheers to a real woman who’s CONFIDENT in her skin and can show some of you how to enjoy that part of life you seem to think is disgusting.

    Now… Lagerfeld as the photog on this after his past/current comments? Well, he’s entitled to an opinion even if he’s extremely wrong about it. I never liked the guy, but he’s an icon in the industry no matter what I or anyone else thinks about him personally.

  67. Shaboobie Boobarella says:

    These are very beautiful and stylized photos of a very charismatic and talented performer. She has been a hero to the burlesque community for years – and her size has very little to do with it. She’s fabulous. She’s enterprising. She’s talented and she’s a great person.

    I find it warped that people feel the need to place judgement because she has not have a conventional model physique. So f-ing what? You’d have to be a very sad, insecure, superficial and uninformed person if these images disgust you. I’d love to see the ‘hater’s have a dance-off with Dirty Martini – I think it’s obvious who’d win. If Giselle Bundchen posed in exactly the same fashion, I don’t think anyone would bat an eyelid. Strange world. I myself have faced prejudice for my size – even though I eat less and exercise far more than most people I know. Even models. I was just built this way. Size-ism is just as evil as racism and there is often no logic.

    That said, I will be buying this issue of V for sure, so I can get a good look at this shoot and support one of my favourite burlesque performers of all time!

    Shaboobie Boobarella

  68. Ella says:

    Dirty Martini is an amazing performer and looks sensational here. Very cool to see her Burlesque background being incorporated in the styling.

    Keep on twirling your tassels, Miss Martini! You’re fabulous.

  69. zoe says:

    oh i love it.
    its so lovely to have diversity. Sends out the message that all body shapes are acceptable, not just size zeros ( which as we know can lead to eating disorders.) This doesn’t glorify obesity just promotes diversity in an industry which completely lacks it.

  70. Yves says:

    http://yvesonvictoria.wordpress.com

    Its not diversity Zoe it is allowing obese people to feel content in their eating habits, which are bad!

  71. Nicolas says:

    Karl Lagerfeld does not hold disregard towards heavier woman. He prefers thin tall girls as far as elements of design and presentation are concerned.
    You cannot declare yourself a fashion lover without understanding and accepting these truths, it is not as vague, or blunt, as most would assume.

  72. nadav says:

    chocolad cake!!!!

  73. mark says:

    love it!!!!!!!!!

  74. Athena says:

    I think these pictures are stunning. Just looking at the first one wowed me. Yes, I am “plus-size”, so it means a little more to me, but even without that viewpoint, it’s still great. Now if this could only be a norm that didn’t need a special issue to show it . . .

    And @Melody, Melissa, Leila: How exactly is this model ‘obese’? Is your vision really that distorted? And get over it. There are people (real human beings, yes) in this world who are large. What gives you the right to stereotype and mock them? I think having a viewpoint like that is what’s disgusting. It makes you a bigot, nothing better.

  75. grimes says:

    The reason it seems so ‘vulgar’ to everyone is that unlike the childish bodies of most models, her figure actually looks feminine. no matter how you look at it, breasts etc. are culturally sexualized parts of the body that develop when you sexually mature and the fact that most models are minimally endowed makes this in contrast seem very explicit when in fact many models are often naked or wearing lingerie all the time and no one talks about how its slutty or dirty. and she is clearly not ‘obese’. you are very sick when you are obese and this woman is clearly healthy.

  76. WooChx says:

    This is FANTASTIC!! I wish every magazine would publish photo’s of sizable women. I can’t wait to purchase V and support their effort!

  77. Madame M says:

    I love the photo. From what I know of burlesque it’s a blend of sex, camp and beauty and I think it’s all captured perfectly. The smoldering, earthy quality of a real women, with all those lovely curves, and particularly the delicate tracery of lace that contrasts her creamy skin, a tattoo? Another taboo? Why Mr. Lagerfeld, naughty naughty. is just all more than one can handel!!! lol

  78. HANNA says:

    Photography is art, the human body is art.
    There are different assessments and different tastes.

  79. Aure says:

    I love painting women : Women with Curves!
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  80. Dirty Martini says:

    Ha ha ha…
    Having a big ass is healthy…
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8451674.stm
    And loving every bit of your body – skinny fat or just medium – is even healthier.
    Much love to all the women of the world who are privileged enough to have this debate.
    Dirty Martini

  81. Nigel S. says:

    Dirty… You ROCK mama!

  82. Stacey says:

    Wow. I am just floored when people look at “transgressive” pictures of women who are a size 12 or 14 and truck out the word “obesity” and grouse about health.

    I’m a size 16-18 and weigh 200 pounds, making me bigger than Miss Martini, I’m sure. For 3 years I played roller derby, practicing high impact aerobic speed skating and hitting 4 times a week for 2 hours each. That entire time and since then, I commute every day 15 miles by bicycle. I practice Bikram yoga 4-6 times per week. I have normal blood pressure, normal blood sugar, and in every other way am as healthy as an “average sized” woman. I love to eat, but I eat I’d say 80-90% whole, unprocessed foods.

    Please, someone, tell me how this magazine is “irresponsible” in promoting women who look like me as beautiful? I would challenge any thinner woman making these fearful comments to an endurance workout. If you’re not running marathons, I’ll bet I kick your ass.

    Women of all sized are beautiful, including me. Shame on all of you who would purport otherwise. I hope you get over yourselves and learn to enjoy life and other people a bit more.

  83. Gary Beeber says:

    These are phenomenal pictures! For all of you who don’t know, Dirty Martini is an extremely talented performer and one of the most famous stars of the new burlesque movement.
    Right on to Karl Lagerfeld for featuring Dirty Martini!

  84. alliemac says:

    grimes says: “The reason it seems so ‘vulgar’ to everyone is that unlike the childish bodies of most models, her figure actually looks feminine. no matter how you look at it, breasts etc. are culturally sexualized parts of the body that develop when you sexually mature and the fact that most models are minimally endowed makes this in contrast seem very explicit when in fact many models are often naked or wearing lingerie all the time and no one talks about how its slutty or dirty. and she is clearly not ‘obese’. you are very sick when you are obese and this woman is clearly healthy.”

    I am so glad someone finally mentioned this! Just because the woman has a rack, she is vulgar and slutty? If this shoot had been done with a skinny model, no one would have even mentioned the word slutty! Make up your minds people! It seems the same type of people who are saying on the other photo shoots that the “fat” women are unattractive are here saying this woman is slutty and vulgar…. which we all know really means you are just jealous of her tatas….

    p.s. to all of those men out there speaking for your gender… most of the women that men lust after in the adult industry would be considered plus sized for high fashion!

  85. Doodlebops says:

    I love and adore Dirty Martini ! I also like Karl Lagerfeld. However, I was somewhat disappointed in his photoshoot. I thought that Dirty Martini could have been represented better. In other words, KL did not do her beauty justice. I would have put her in a nice gown, and posed her more alluringy. Dirty Martini can take a great photograph. I agree with the person who said that the pics were unflattering. Dirty Martini deserved better treatment, better art direction. Congratulations to you, Dirty Martini, for being selected for this special issue of V, I am really happy for you and support your career !

  86. Amon says:

    After decades of absence, the long-awaited return of womanly curves in fashion?
    Adorable woman, fantastic pics!

  87. laurie says:

    This seems like a mockery of everything Chanel. Can’t hate.

  88. Miss Understood says:

    Some of you commenters really need to rethink your definition of “obese”. Dirty Martini is in great shape. She’s an active physically fit dancer. She also has a body type which, while not uncommon, is rarely portrayed in the fashion media.

    An to those uptight about semi nudity, some people do not see it as demeaning to be viewed as sexy. We were all born naked, it’s our most natural state! Love ya’ Dirty!

  89. Anna says:

    I love this ‘real sized’ woman crap that everyone’s always touting. What happened to normal sized women, the ones between the sizes of 4 and 8? Where being a -2 isn’t what ‘real’ women should look like, neither is this. As lovely as she might be, she is overweight and yet everyone embraces these plus-sized models as being what real women look like.

    People have such disdain toward women who are normal. The model in Vogue a few weeks ago who was talking about the insanity of the industry and how her size 4 was considered ‘fat’. All I read were spiteful sarcastic articles about how we should feel so sorry for her because she’s clearly such a fatass. No, she was explaining what the industry is and people hated her for it because while she wasn’t ridiculously thin, she wasn’t overweight because clearly that’s what us ‘real’ women look like. I dunno, I kind of enjoy seeing women who like my friends, or myself or the people I pass on a city street. Yanno, normal sized people.

    These much sought after curves that everyone’s always talking about, the reminiscence of classic Hollywood, they were not plus-sized, they were not super thin, they were normal. It irks me when people like to cite that Monroe was ‘plus-sized’ because of her dress size in 1950. While she was hardly a toned woman, she was not ‘plus-sized’. Her measurements were similar to about a 4/6 these days. What I consider to be a normal, healthy size for women.

    Go look at neo-classical art or 1940’s pin-ups to see what a normal woman is supposed to look like and I assure you as much as it’s not a rail thin starved model, it’s not this either.

  90. Miss Understood says:

    Anna there is no “normal” in nature, there is only “normal” in your narrow mind. People are born with a variety of body types. Some people are naturally a 2, some are naturally a 6, others are naturally a 14. Some women are muscular, some have huge tits, some grow beards. There may be average types but average does not make them more “normal” than others.

    This is simply a glamour layout of a lovely lady with a certain body type, no more and no less. It’s not meant to dictate what anyone else should be, it’s simply a celebration of who she is, period. Why the hell should every photo shoot be of the same kind of person? The fact that it bugs you so much says a lot about you.

  91. Kashmir says:

    I think it’s wonderful to see variety embraced by fashion. I have a newfound respect for M Lagerfeld.

  92. Apple says:

    You can cry tragedy about obesity all you want, doesn’t change anything. 64% of Americans are considered overweight or obese. It’s time for high fashion to wake up and start making clothes that are more readily available for the people that live in the US. I applaud the designers who have already started to make Plus-size lines and say keep it up – maybe Versace wouldn’t have to close their PR firm if they widened their line a little.

    I hope this dialogue keeps going!

  93. Anna says:

    No, I am saying that overweight is not what the standard should be. People seem to go batshit every time an overweight women is featured in a magazine and begin shrieking, ‘Someone who looks like us!’ No, she doesn’t look like all of us, that’s as narrow-minded as featuring nothing but -2 size models. In these ‘size’ issues there’s always a huge gap in the sizes. Either you’re rail thin or you’re a size 14. She’s clearly a lovely woman, I think it’s a fabulous spread, but what about the women who aren’t plus-sized and are not an anorexic waif? They are never featured and when they are people seem to cry foul.

    I look around me and I see what I consider ‘normal’ sized women. They’re not overweight, they’re not ridiculously thin and yet no one ever seems to give them a second thought. There needs to be variety but I don’t see it. I see overweight or underweight. No one wants to talk about women who aren’t one or the other, it’s as though if a women isn’t underweight then clearly she has to be overweight.

    Again, the model is lovely, her weight does not bother me, however the fact that this is all magazines ever focus on when they’re trying to include ‘all women’ is a travesty. There is a middle ground and no one seems to give a damn about promoting it. It’s always one extreme or another.

  94. Miss Understood says:

    You are contradicting yourself left and right. You keep referring to women who look like you and your friends as “normal” as if everyone else is abnormal. All sizes are normal. The fact that most print media focuses on a narrow slice of normal, very thin women, does create a distorted image. But considering how rarely a lady with Dirty’s proportions is given a spread it’s silly of you to rant about it. Its While there may be a lack of… let’s call them “medium” sized women in these shoots, the problem is not one isolated shoot of a non traditional model.

    It’s as if you were fighting to get women into and all mens club and then you got pissed off because the first lady who got in was black and you are white.

  95. Magnolia says:

    Just want to chime in on the kudos to V, Herr Karl, and Dirty for a beautiful and exuberant shoot. Glamour and seduction abound in these photos – because Miss Martini has it in spades. I’m happy as can be to see a curvy gal deemed worthy of this kind of layout!

  96. Charlotte says:

    Where is the “liberation” , the shoot has the skinny “normal” woman in a timeless chanel suit and the plus size girl in nipple tassels. It seems that plus size models are made a joke of. Either like them or leave them. Don’t mock them

  97. FabFashFreddy says:

    ^Charlotte: it’s your ignorance and prejudices that you need to liberate yourself from… the skinny “normal” woman is a Coco Chanel stand-in, having her next to the plus size model is an homage to one of the greatest figures in fashion.
    and it is only your puritan views on sexuality that make the plus size model an object of mockery, on the opposite what this editorial does is show that anyone can be sexy and comfortable in their sexuality, plus size or not.

  98. Koiyu says:

    I think she’s adorable. When I was looking through this editorial, I just gushed over her cute little poses and lovely, ample body. OwO She reminds me a little bit of Lillian Russell :D

  99. EB says:

    I wish they would show her in couture clothing. It’s hard for big girls to find nice clothes that feel elegant and sophisticated. It’s much more conventional to see big girls dressed like this in most magazines. She’s very pretty, but this spread showcasing her spread is very uncreative.

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