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December 21st, 2009 by Janelle | Model News
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V Magazine’s Size issue is a chic tribute to the idea that beauty comes in all shapes and sizes; what better way to highlight this than to show two models, with two very different body types, wearing the same exact ensembles and looking divine. In our first exclusive preview of V‘s new issue, Terry Richardson shoots stunners, Crystal Renn and Jacquelyn Jablonski looking sultry in seriously daring pieces chosen by Mel Ottenberg. Both girls look beautiful, sexy and strong, it doesn’t get more fashionable than that.

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93 Comments

  1. Antonio Barros says:

    This editorial is fabulous!!! Congratulations models.com!

    http://thesingular.blogspot.com

  2. Anne D. says:

    That’s just GREAT! They both look gorgeous.

  3. David says:

    I love Crystal Renn…. even she is plus size she still works like million dollars body. she is the best.

  4. k says:

    crystal and jackie look stunning! i love this

  5. Samira says:

    Aww that’s such an amazing editorial. Great !
    http://allaboutmodels.blogspot.com/

  6. modelsfan72 says:

    Love that V is doing this! Would love for more plus models to be featured on models.com its so important and its not just Crystal taking such beautiful pictures!!

  7. LD says:

    Girls like Crystal Renn should get work regularly alongside the average high fashion models. Both girls look equally amazing.

  8. J says:

    crystal and jackie are practically twins lol
    but crystal is working it way harder than jackie to be honest

  9. k says:

    ^ agreeee

  10. ashley_surfer says:

    I LOVE this editorial. I would love to see more of this. Shape=beauty.

  11. Tiffany says:

    They look great.

  12. *Monika* says:

    Loooooooooooooooove the style love the cloths!!! The necklaces are great, I want it all!! ^-^

  13. R says:

    Crystal & Jacquelyn, what a combination! this is so provocative & hot.

  14. jta modeling mngmnt says:

    beauty has no size

  15. Back says:

    Right both of them look absolutely great!!!

    http://backandback.blogspot.com

  16. hamilton says:

    HOT pics & trendy style!

  17. Lady Yvette says:

    ABSOLUTELY!! Lady Yvette approves!

    **The Fashion Ambassador**

  18. Avşar OCAK says:

    nice..
    perfect

  19. luke says:

    i dont really know about this i love thin healthy models,i think plus should stay where they are and leave and leave high fashion for the thin models…she just doesnt look as good as the other

  20. Tracie Stern says:

    I commend their efforts to attempt a size issue and shoot an editorial that includes a ‘plus size’ however, this is not it. The reason Plus sizes aren’t mainstream is because of shoots like this, at first look, I had no idea that it was 2 different models. By turning her body in the frame on the left this model could easily have been plus, it’s all in body shaping and camera angles.
    It’s insulting to someone like me who has been in the plus industry for 15 yrs, has struggled with the prejudices of not getting editorial shoots or beauty campaigns because of my size that an attempt at a ‘beauty in all sizes’ photo has this result. If you want to truly make a statement and convince Plus sized women that they are REALLY equal, then do a shoot with a size 16 model who has a cup size of a D or DD and whose body is equally as fit. They exist, I see them everyday.
    Once again the big bad world of editorials has put their limits on what is considered acceptable as far as size.
    I suppose it’s the thought that counts.

  21. modelsfan72 says:

    To Tracie, How can you say that the two models could be the same size in different angles? Jacquelyn is a couture size, maybe a 0-2, and crystal is a 10-12, if you are promoting size diversity in the industry then you can alienate anybody, not even a size 10- we need to embrace any diversity the editorial world shows in order to open the idea up to other magazines..

  22. modelsfan72 says:

    Luke, you are obviosuly a man- “healthy” women come in a vast array of sizes..

  23. alexander says:

    crystal is giving it in every picture, and my eyes went automatically to her. they both do look extraordinary though.

    http://www.tolle-hue.blogspot.com

  24. Nigel S. says:

    Well..absolutely beautiful photos. Jacquelyn is Superb but naturally Crystal steals the show being as seasoned and amazing as she is. She is a high fashion model in a proudly plus sized figure. She works it like no ones business!
    Though I’d have to disagree with the notion of their bodies being “very” different. Sure, as far as high fashion goes, Crystal is obviously plus size but her body isn’t so much larger than that of Jacquelyn.
    And thankfully Jacquelyn isn’t so thin! They both look amazing. Great job by Terry! He’s been revamping positively as of late.

    Hmm..I wonder if Tocarra Jones will be a part of this V feature, she was amazing Vogue Italia..Tracie, you’d be quite pleased with Tocarra as far as cup sizes go…And this is just a snippet, there’ll be more, so let’s see what develops.

  25. Lori says:

    amen to modelsfan x 2!! and tracie, maybe you should wait to see the magazine in its entirety before deciding it doesn’t represent size 16 models also…

  26. Larapixie says:

    fantastic!love it!

  27. modelsfan72 says:

    Toccarra would be great, but what about the true goddess Kate Dillon??

  28. Vanessa says:

    Fabulous!!! Be healthy and be who you are! Amazing.

  29. JWRomantics says:

    Wouw that’s great . Keep alive V-Magazine

  30. JWRomantics says:

    Good News Model.com is the best

  31. carola says:

    Great casting! I wouldn’t mind seeing girls like Crystal regularly in Vogue, the clothes look amazing on her, so nice to see tight clothes on some curves. Jacqquelyn is amazing but of course I think the idea was for Crystal to be the star of this editorial.

  32. lisa says:

    i really think the thinner model looks better
    more high fashion

  33. TpC says:

    I think a neosexual man would find both women gorgeous…

    Depending on the pose, one woman looks better than the other – accentuating the curves and lines.

    Some men like a little more meat on their women…

    I find that the runway super skinny models show the clothes the best and a lady who is of more average size tends to look great in person but can appear ‘chunky’ in print – mostly because of the conditioning we’ve had from always looking at rail thin as the ideal woman’s shape in modern western society.

  34. yolanda says:

    me parece fantastico que den otra perspectiva de las modelos
    que tambien se puede de tallas grandes y eso es fantastico…!!!
    felicidades a la modelo hizo un fantastico trabajo es de admiracion y la ropa es realmente increible esa combinacion ..

    y el trabajo se ve realmente super fashion

  35. Fene says:

    They both look great ; ) and btw Tracie, only wanting a size 16 model is discrimination against models of other sizes as well…

  36. Marcie says:

    I’ve always been a fan of fuller-figured models. There’s a great site with many images of Crystal and other plus-size models here:

    http://www.judgmentofparis.com/

    They’re all gorgeous.

    The site’s forum also has thought-provoking discussions about body image and the media.

  37. Anjali says:

    When will people understand that high fashion is not about appealing to men at all? It’s about projecting your own individuality.

    And am I the only one who is offended by the phrase “having a little meat on their bones”? It completely objectifies women, making them sound like carcasses. Plus size women are trying to destroy some stereotypes by perpetuating new stereotypes.

  38. Oldpainting says:

    Crystal kicks it, totally a classic beauty, I could see her face, form, hair, coloring, nose, everything, in a French master’s painting from hundreds of years ago.

  39. Envahisseur says:

    I didn’t know size 8 was plus size.

  40. Yasir Bahawalpur says:

    beautiful all the way…

  41. svetozar says:

    i don’t know why everyone is saying “beautiful”.. i don’t think it is – the plus size model is obviously out of place. it’s fashion, not some “save the whale” campaign – i just can’t make myself supportive here..

  42. Ashley says:

    @ svetozar

    Did you really just say “Save the Whale” campaign….? Are you serious? Really? A whale?

    Dude, she’s like a size 8 or 10!

    You need a “save yourself” campaign…

  43. ellen says:

    I agree with svetozat, it’s not beautiful.
    I don’t like what you said about the save a whale campaign, that’s not very nice of you.

  44. betty says:

    I’m seriously hoping svetozar said “save the whale” to mean saving some endangered species and that he/she could have meant “save the panda/save the dolpin/save the tiger”.

    I’m hoping that because otherwise he/she needs to take some lessons on common courtesy.

    Betty
    MDC

  45. Meg says:

    What this photo illustrates and the reason it terrifys people like Svetovar is that size 12 could EASILY replace and out-sell the size 0′s in photos, because Crystal looks gorgeous. We just have to MAKE it happen. Gasp!… and if that happened, then the people who currently dominate the fashion industry would lose their grasp and the power would return to the size 8+ women. They would have to acknowledge that the majority of women’s clothes are actually for size 8+ WOMEN, not young flat chested girls that still look like boys or starvation victims or drug addicts. That’s it isnt it ? The reality is that even by calling a size 8/10/12/14/16 a PLUS size is a vain attempt to make those sizes seem somehow un-ordinary, un-common, and unwanted. Thats a lie, because the reverse is true. The truth is that anything sized 0,2,4,6 should be termed a “Minus” size and anything above that the more mainstream and actually gets bought and worn. If magazines started exclusively showing women like Crystal in photos, you would forget all about the Jacquelyn Jablonski’s. I say relegate them to their own Minus size magazines where they belong. Sorry Jacquelyn, but you are in a small minority.

  46. Meg says:

    A more interesting point of discussion would be: Why does the “Editorial” fashion industry exclude sizes 8 and up, even though those are the sizes that represent the majority of actual living women ? Is the female majority size range really that repulsive and unaceptable to you ? Why is that only those who are technically female but who look androgynous ( meaning they look like either gender ) are used as Editorial models ? What has been the influence of homosexual men, photographers, designer, etc had on the definition of beauty ? How has the quest for youth affected the definition of beauty ?

  47. Zoe says:

    loving the theming beautiful…. very tasteful.

  48. Marcus says:

    crystal renn betta werqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq

  49. O YU says:

    Oh…. My style!

  50. Emily says:

    Amen to that, Anjali. And well said.

    Surely we’ve moved on since a woman’s main purpose and objective in life is to please men?
    I don’t give a crap if men like ‘curves’, I’d much prefer size 0 to what you consider ‘curvy’ anyday.

    Meg: Quit giving out about homosexual men in the fashion industry. It’s women that want thin. Women like Crystal won’t have the same effect. Designers have no ulterior motive, they just want to sell as much clothes as possible to make as much money as possible. And thin sell clothes. We don’t want average-looking women, we want stunning otherworldly women. Average-sized women don’t have the same effect. That’s a good enough reason for me. As Svetozar said, teh fashion industry is not some charity. Also, androgyny is the mixing of both masculine and feminine elements.

    Laughs @ Svetozar. Too true. Perhaps you should have used a different animal other than whale though, people are jumping to conclusions here.

  51. J'aime says:

    I think we should fully stop catergorizing people. It is stupid. People should be notice be who they are, not what they are. I must say, that it is hard for the human race to change so quickly, once they’ve accepted something, its hard for them to change their opinion again. Fashion is art, though it should be critiqued, it should be the person your critiqing, the photographer obvioulsy wanted her to pose like that, his decision. If so many people have a problem with such sizes being used, and racial issues and so forth, I think we should just make a green barbie doll, with no hair what-so-ever, and design them some clothes, that will fit the small thing. As a human race, we’ve gotton too carried away in how people look, we should just be taken by our personalities, whether they true or not.

  52. Vane says:

    Crystal Renn rocks!!! She should be on Top 20 sexiest models!!!!
    Best wishes V

  53. Ellen says:

    Anjali well said!

  54. Alejandro says:

    La idea me parece realmente buena, las fotos hechas por Terry Richardson…. ejem dejan mucho que desear desde mi punto de vista, es decir, más vale caer en gracia que ser gracioso…

  55. manahari says:

    hi all the best of picture any way now enjoy ur model picture ok

  56. Cathrine says:

    I think this just showcases how much more incredible these clothes (JUST THE CLOTHES) look on skinny women. Crystal might look more like a godess naked, but looking at the real issue of fashion, which is showcasing clothes, Jacquelyn Jablonski with here skinny body makes the clothes pop out more.

  57. MGF says:

    Crystal est 100 000 fois plus sexy que Jacquelyn !!!

  58. Amber says:

    @ Meg: You are perpetuating a nasty cycle with your negative sizing comments. Just as the industry starts to show support for larger sizes, you intend on throwing everyone size 6 and down under the bus?

    The truth is, women want to buy clothes that they can imagine themselves in. For most, that means a model that echos their own self image. As a size two, I have difficulty imagining a dress demonstrated by a size 12 due to my lack of curves. I’m sure the same is true of size 12′s when they are shown only 2′s.

    Let’s learn to embrace all women as sisters and fill the pages of our magazines with a rainbow of them all.

  59. Claire says:

    Since when is size 10-12 considered PLUS SIZE? She is “normal”, not plus-sized.

  60. Stephanie says:

    Good for all plus-size and teeny-size females (too bad we have to talk about size whatsoever, of course, but that’s a l o n g cultural conversation). But A MORE INTERESTING QUESTION… how about some fashion (editorial and garments) for the overwhelming majority of American females: AVERAGE SIZE, eg 12-14?????

    Size 0 to 2 = icon
    Size 18+ = newsworthy
    Average Size = invisible (plus largely ignored by fashion designers, media, retail)

    Can someone please tell me why there are no good looking, affordable, fashionable garments for average size, grownup, women? To me, that would be a more interesting story. Keep moving forward……

  61. Claudia says:

    Gracias por incluir mujeres con curvas en la moda!!! Son hermosas todas ellas y lucen las prendas con garbo.

    Las pequenas deben de conocer la diversidad humana, con sus diferencias y sentirse orgullosas de lo que ellas son y como se ven.

  62. Ed G. Gil says:

    …It’s certainly about time. Now follow through, and keep the eye on the ball.

  63. rosiel says:

    I want to know that I can look GREAT in fabulous clothes! That’s the REAL reason I want to see models I can relate to. I’m not a teenager. I’m a real, grown-up ADULT WOMAN with DISPOSABLE INCOME. I’m 47 years old and PROUD to say I can still fit into some of the clothes I wore in HIGH SCHOOL (how many women can say THAT?) Why? because I still wear the same SIZE – size 12!!!

    I’m a 5′8″ glamazon and proud of it. I hike, bike, swim, run and do yoga. I’m a vegetarian and can probably kick a door down and rescue your skinny butt from a burning building, and proud of it. I’m healthy as hell. So DON’T GO telling me I’m “fat. You’re fulla shit.

    The fact is, Americans are BOTH TALLER and BETTER FED than Europeans. Yes, I’d be the first to agree Americans can stand to improve their eating habits…BUT the FACT remains that super-thin, very tall 0-2 sized models ARE GENETICALLY 2% of the population. Which means they are NOT AVERAGE. Not at ALL. No offense intended to the MINORITY of skinny girls in this country, but LET’S GET REAL about BODY SIZE.

    I’m never, EVER going to be a size 0. Not even if I starve myself. I tried it in high school and ended up a size 8, who fainted if I just got up to walk across a room. My frame will NEVER be that small. My wrist bones alone are TWICE the width of someone like Kate Moss or MaryKate&Ashley. I work in the Entertainment Industry and I’ve seen these women up close. THEY ARE TINY, TINY, TINY. Most American women simply are NOT.

    Unlike the teenagers designers seem to be marketing their clothes to, I’m old enough to KNOW whether or not something I see will fit me and make me look fantastic. 90% of Vogue? On the scrap heap, immediately! If I like a LOOK (as opposed to a dress) I’ll create it from pieces THAT FIT MY BODY!!

    Karl, Anne, John-Paul and all the rest…you want me to buy your clothes??? SHOW ME how great MY body will look in them, or forget it. You’ll never see a dime of my money.

  64. Katherine says:

    they are both well within the normal range, very pretty girls. But not extreme. Nice, but not exactly ground breaking, but I guess it’s been a very slow several decades.

  65. Chutney says:

    Stephanie you are so on the mark. I feel the same way. But in fashion everything is the extreme – you must be superthin or superfat, either way you have to be unhealthy in some form if you want to be showcased.

    As a size 12 I have to agree with some of the other commenters. I don’t think all the clothes look good on the larger women. I know that I can’t wear everything I see in the stores even if I might want to. Putting a revealing swimsuit on a woman with belly fat is not cool. It does not look good I don’t care how you spin it. Likewise a snug fitting dress for a woman with curves looks horrid on a rail thin model. Anyone who thinks otherwise is trying to brainwash you.

    If the fashion world really wants to expand their vision and widen their audience then they have to learn how to make all women look good in their clothes. Visions of side-acts at the circus ( a la the Lagerfeld shoot) just ain’t cuttin’ it.

  66. Rodolfo says:

    Not too attracted to the skinnier model. The other models looks wonderful and beautiful.

  67. Eliza says:

    I am fully in favor of not aspiring to a size 0 or 2. On the other hand, is a size 12-14 healthy (different question of beauty) and should we really aspire to glorify it? According to the NEJM if a woman has a BMI within 19-25 she is in the ‘healthy’ range so who cares about size, isn’t that just a distraction?

    In an age and country where obesity is a national epidemic the idea of normal and average weight is sadly morphing into an unhealthy size (literally and apparel-wise). People latch on to this concept of ‘normal size 12′ to justify (and feel ok about) the fact that they are well, you know, overweight. I know this won’t be popular, but before you revel in your size 12 or 14, check your BMI and make sure you are healthy. After all, shouldn’t ‘healthy is beautiful’ be the mantra?

  68. childofthelight says:

    As a man who loves and appreciates women for all their qualities, I would say that that when each woman is viewed individually they are all beautiful. Whenever two or more women are viewed together, it is only natural to make comparisons.
    Therefore, when I view the photograph of these two models side by side, it is difficult not to make comparisons or contrasts of what is visually presented. That is the obvious intent of the juxtaposition.
    Consequently, without further dynamic input of personality, it is my opinion that Crystal Renn presents the most “healthy” or “athletic” body image. Jacquelyn Jablonski, though a very pretty woman, appears to me to be somewhat underweight.
    By counterpoint, the women shown in the New York Times article and those size sixteen and above would seem to me “unhealthy”. Although what is seen externally on the human body has its obvious visual impact, I believe that it is also an indication of the internal physical health and perhaps mental heath as well, despite the cliché that “beauty is only skin deep”. A healthy diet, proper exercise and adequate rest most likely will ultimately have physical and mental manifestations. True beauty is all pervading.
    I don’t know whether these two models were posed by the photographer or the models found their positions naturally. My opinion though is that Crystal’s pose with her arms back, her chest projected and hips cocked is a pre-eminent display of sexuality and self-confidence. With her head cocked to the left I am drawn and tempted to desire to imagine kissing her throat, cheek and ear. The curve of her left hip is on full display. Although, Jacquelyn is exposing herself more fully with her left hand, her left upper arm seems frail looking and her facial expression seems a little insecure.
    If there were publications dedicated to addressing healthy fashion body types, this would seem more ideal to me. Fashion is only one aspect of the complexity of humanity. These comments are not to “objectify” women, but obviously fashion and style have that innate quality to display physicality and personality in western civilization. Theoretically, the style typified by Middle Eastern civilization suppresses and conceals “objectivity” while preserving the concept that “a woman’s main purpose and objective in life is to please men”, but thereby represses freedom of expression in almost all other contexts.
    With all due respect to other commentators to the contrary, the effect of the clothing is more fully articulated by Crystal. To all those who were offended by comments relating to quantity of flesh, whales, etc., I vicariously submit my humble apologies for those unfortunately less discrete and courteous.

  69. Caren says:

    I agree that the model here is not a “plus size” but a normal size. She looks great. In an ideal world normal sized women would be the models and the fashion industry would cater to the this. I am not convinced that promoting unhealthy larger sizes (16+?) would be any better than promoting tiny sizes (on mostly adolescent) women. But after all is said and done, the bottom is money, not art, and somehow the public has bought into the idea that too thin is beautiful. It must sell, or they wouldn’t promote it.

    One other thought- we would all be beautiful if we could have our flaws photo shopped!

  70. katzenjaammer says:

    Objectification/ idealization of the female form will always exist. It’s only an issue for those who can’t separate fantasy from reality and they’re not selling reality on the runway. If you want to see yourself, watch TV. The housewives selling Swiffer have been getting wider and wider for years. Realistic depictions of women are already all over Madison Avenue.

    I was a pudgy kid that grew up to be a height weight proportionate size 10. I know what “FAT” is and it ain’t me. To call me a plus size is ridiculous, I wouldn’t waste my energy to even give it credence.

    Gotta go. Need a cookie!

  71. chrigid says:

    Weird: putting the two sizes adjacent to one another makes the heavier model look like what a woman should look like in fashionable clothes, and the thinner model look like an awkward child in dress-up. I never would have imagined the juxtaposition would favor the heavier woman.

  72. mzp says:

    ummmm, hello!
    THICKER GIRL LOOKS WAY MORE FUN.

  73. Teffer says:

    I’m really tired of the “clothes look better on tall, skinny models” argument.

    I love fashion. I’ve studied fashion design, and I love beautiful, well-made clothes. I wish I had lots of money so I could buy beautiful, well-made clothes all the time. To me, the beauty of clothes is how they beautify the woman wearing them. I’m of the opinion that successful clothes make you notice the woman before the clothes.

    High fashion has become more sculpture than anything else. Fashion design is an art, a subtle and difficult one to master. But making great fashion is about so much more than making something that is intrinsically beautiful. It’s about making something that is intrinsically beautiful AND beautifies the woman wearing it. Those are the clothes that impress me the most: the first impression is “DANG, that woman’s a babe!”; the second, “DANG, it’s because her dress is fabulous!”

    I feel bad for the models in today’s fashion world. The Supers got to work it– they OWNED the runway. Now, clothes own the runway, and models are pressured to become thinner to showcase the clothes better. If the clothes you design look best on the hanger, why don’t you just roll them down the runway on a rack?

    Clothes are supposed to be about the woman (or man) who wears them. Maybe designers should stop trying to fit their models to their clothes and start trying to fit their clothes to their models.

  74. Ess Tee says:

    Both women look wonderful. Kudos for a great spread! For those people that think she is a size 8-10, Crystal Renn is listed as a size 16 model. :)

  75. Dee says:

    I personally don’t see her as a plus size model. She really just looks like a healthy, normal sized woman. They both are beautiful.

  76. Dee says:

    Another thing is that the clothes acutually FIT the so called plus size model. They don’t fit the skinnier model as they appear to be loose some of the time.

  77. KR says:

    Fashion just continues to alienate women when it goes around calling a size 10 a “plus” size.

    What these photos prove to me (a tall size 10 whom all my friends call “skinny”) is that ridiculous clothes look better on an almost transparent hanger (the traditional model) vs. a normal woman, who should run when she sees clothes like these.

  78. Mr. Reeee says:

    These are WOMEN, not stick figures. They are average sized, NOT “plus” by any stretch of the imagination.

    Bony models are incredibly UN-appealing. Maybe the fashion world is finally getting the message.

    What a great move!

  79. dizzyspins says:

    A few comments

    1. Crystal looks amazing and shouldnt be considered “plus-size” (does anyone hate that word besides me? It sounds like something you get at CostCo). She should be considered a model and put in shows/layouts on her own merits.

    2. There should be more diversity in body types in fashion, but you’ll never have an “all sizes are beautiful” approach. Fashion is about fantasy and aspiration–the women are more beautiful than you or I could hope to be. The point is NOT to see people that look like us on the runway. Doesnt mean there shouldnt be bigger girls, just that you shouldnt look for validation on the runway.

    3. A majority of American women are size 14 and bigger. That doesnt mean they SHOULD be. Im not saying everyone who’s a 14 is unhealthy, but there is an undeniable obesity epidemic in this country. And putting girls down the runway who are size 18 is as wrong as sending size 0s.

  80. Steve H says:

    Gimme a break. These big girls are beautiful, not “flawed,” or “obese,” or “unhealthy,” or “a bad example.” In fact, these particular big girls look very healthy indeed! Normal, in fact.

    Maybe the people who have problems with this whole discussion should take a look at themselves.

    Thanks for publishing this article.

  81. Debbie2008 says:

    Gorgeous!

  82. bklyn says:

    Does it not strike anyone that the thinner model simply looks like a little girl playing dressup?

  83. Kate from Australia says:

    There is no way a size 14 woman is a real plus size woman. In terms of the modelling world – maybe. There is very little difference in the two women in the picture and one is supposed to be a size 2 and the other a 14? Photoshopping??? Fashion photography and beauty magazines are all selling an illusion. Get a real plus size woman and I might sit up and take notice and say bravo.

  84. Kelly says:

    I’m confused… are there two different models here, or have they only posted one girl?

  85. Anna N says:

    I happen to know someone who was on the shoot and Crystal got to shoot first, then the photographer chose 3-5 poses for Jacquelyn to mimic. Crystal was free to do whatever while Jacquelyn was more restricted. They both look AMAZING, and the styling, and photography is incredible!!

  86. Nicolas says:

    Anna N, thank you for that comment! It just furthers my opinion – and I have absolutely no disregard towards the fuller woman – the thinner body is easier to mold, easiest to transform. Fashion is, essentially, manipulation, and the thin model is very easy to transform into exaggerated or mundane shapes. A designer’s aesthetic can’t be restricted to full contours. A straight sheath won’t be straight on a full figure, a trapeze dress won’t hang, but cling, on a full figure. Skinny trousers, well now, the name alone would be a contradiction on a full figure. There is more room to manipulate on a streamline figure. Another reason, why isn’t the debate on height as severe as weight? I adore full women as much as I adore thin women. How they emphasize their own bodies is, hello again, manipulation. Let’s avoid scolding the industry for pursuing an aesthetic, and satisfying the rules/principles of design. Regardless of the complications that are affecting society’s attitude about weight, and fashion.

  87. liz says:

    Use thin models because they sell more? Usually, I look at a pic, say, “Wow, I like that, but I COULD NEVER get away with it” (being a size 12 woman). Seeing a larger woman, I think to myself, “hey I could probably pull that off”. I am sure I am not the only woman to think this way. If these pictures are to sell clothes, would it not make sense to represent all women? Tall, short, wider, curvier, athletic, slimmer?

    Women want to look nice, and most cannot live up to 6′ tall 100 lb (or whatever the very tall thin models are) standard. The second model is gorgeous, and gives me an idea what I might possibly be able to achieve, therefore wanting to buy the clothes..

  88. Steph says:

    This confuses me because honestly, at least the way they are posing, the smaller model looks much nicer to me. I have noticed that I find skinnier models to be more attractive modeling designs that show alot of leg, like most of these, while more regular girls look exponentially better modeling chestier designs. Nothing grosses me out or brings me back to reality faster than seeing the rib bones in the middle of a girl’s chest. However, the size that I find most appealing is the size of most standard swimsuit and Victoria’s Secret models. Much thinner but with more muscle tone and actual breasts.
    I will echo that just because a size is average does not make it healthy. However, reverting to size is a stupid argument anyway because it’s not exactly a standard measurement. When Jennifer Love Hewitt claims to be a size 2, she may be. I am 5’11” and have gotten into more than a few arguments over what size I wear because I am thin. I wear between a size 4 and 10 (because size is stupid and changes store to store). Someone taller than me may wear the same size but be much thinner and someone shorter would look alot bigger. I will say that even when I was so thin that I kind of grossed myself out (too much running), I was a size 5 in jeans at the smallest. I couldn’t imagine being my height (average supermodel height) and a size 0. BMI is a much better measurement of “size” because it accounts the tremendous affect of height and it is also a clue to the health of the individual, but as a modifier, our country focus on weight as well instead of fitness when a very petite girl may weigh alot more due to muscle. I have alot of friends who weigh sometimes upwards of 170 pounds but don’t appear to be that heavy becuause they exercise and lift alot.

  89. Helen says:

    It seems to me that today, there are two kinds of models: reed-thin, and chubby. The middle ground has disappeared.

    Magazine editors want to see a move away from the current trend for extremely, extremely thin models, to models who are simply slim. The kind of models who reigned in 80′s. They no longer exist: too fat.

    A model does not have to be extremely, extremely thin to take a beautiful, aspirational picture which will motivate a million women into the shops. Crystal Renn is proving that, as have Cindy Crawford, Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez, Scarlett Johanessen and many other women before her.

    The current trend for extremely thin models, is in my view nothing to do with good business sense. Its possible to say unequivocally, that a greater diversity of models will motivate many more women into the shops.

    Instead, I believe this trend for extremely, extremely thin models has everything to do with misogyny. This is a way to hurt women at a deep, deep level: to destroy their self-esteem and confidence. If you take away women’s confidence and power, you have them in the palm of your hand. No threat. Just a malleable, weakened population. At its worst, high fashion is being used to hurt, control and disempower women.

  90. Trishia says:

    Thin, beautiful and tall women are rare, which is why they get slapped onto magazine covers and onto runways; everyone wants to be just like them and everyone is made to desire them – even if that image is unreachable for the majority of women out there.

    Fashion will always cater to the rare ideal of “beauty” because it likes to position itself at the top of the hierarchy. This has nothing to do with appealing to men or selling clothes to women or representing a certain sector of the population more fairly. In fact, I doubt that designers care at all whether they get to sell anything as long as their work is admired. As for models, voluptuous women with gorgeous faces are just a fad and some sort of temporary fixation in fashion that’ll go out eventually. And, regardless of what kind of body structure a woman has, you will never see an “ugly” person in fashion (except for those rare cases where a model is intentionally chosen for odd, standout features).

    It has to do with showcasing what looks good and what looks best, and displaying designers’ creations. It has to do with status, money and image. All people aspire to these things, very few people can have them. Let’s just all use the right word here: elitism. Fashion always was and always is and always will be about elitism.

    The fanfare and heated discussion will naturally follow afterwards.

  91. sam says:

    Jacquelyn Jablonski is more beautiful then Crystal…

  92. Mubashir Saeed says:

    Fashion will every time cater to the rare ideal of “beauty” since it likes to site itself by the side of the top of the hierarchy. This has nothing to solve with appealing to men or promotion clothes to women or representing a confident sector of the population more reasonably. All the rage statement, I doubt with the intention of designers concentration by the side of all whether they grasp to vend no matter which as long as their exert yourself is accepted. So in lieu of models, voluptuous women with gorgeous faces are completely a fashion and particular sort of temporary fascination in frame that’ll function comatose eventually. And, at any rate of come again? Kind of body construction a woman has, you will in no way see to it that an “ugly” person in frame (except in lieu of persons rare gear everywhere a mock-up is intentionally chosen in lieu of weird, standout features).

    It has to solve with showcasing come again? Looks moral and come again? Looks top, and displaying designers’ creations. It has to solve with status, money and image. All live in aspire to these things, very not many live in can allow them. Let’s completely all expend the remedy word at this point: Elitism. Fashion every time was and every time is and every time will be not far off from elitism.

    The elaboration and heated conversation will purely respect afterwards.

  93. Anony M says:

    It’s ridiculous that the skinny standard dominates to the point where Crystal seems to represent fat women. Crystal is more like Jacquelyn than she is like the average American woman.

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