{"id":147252,"date":"2022-07-27T13:03:27","date_gmt":"2022-07-27T17:03:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/models.com\/oftheminute\/?p=147252"},"modified":"2024-02-21T16:17:32","modified_gmt":"2024-02-21T21:17:32","slug":"mcqueen-muse-wali-is-using-their-platform-to-advocate-for-decarceration","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/models.com\/oftheminute\/mcqueen-muse-wali-is-using-their-platform-to-advocate-for-decarceration\/","title":{"rendered":"McQueen Muse Wali Is Using Their Platform to Advocate for Decarceration"},"content":{"rendered":"<style>\n.centerimg {padding:4em 7em;margin:20px 0;}\n.centerimg2 {padding:4em 4em;margin:20px 0;}\n.centerimg3 {padding:4em 3em;margin:20px 0;}\n.sidetxt {padding:16em 2em 16em 2em;;margin:20px 0;}\n.centerimg img {margin-bottom:0px;}\n.instagram-media {margin:auto !important;}\n#wp-content hr {margin: 40px auto 80px auto;width: 80%;}\n<\/style>\n<p><strong>Modeling wasn\u2019t always in store for Chicago-born <a href=\"\/\/models.com\/models\/wali-deutsch\">Wali<\/a>, who comes from a family of defense lawyers that tried and won cases for the Black Panthers in Southern Illinois, The Attica Brothers case, and many more. With that influential background, socio-political issues and activism have always been essential for Wali, so after being scouted as a teenager, they decided to pivot away from modeling to go to college and study sociology and gender studies. Through their education, Wali found a \u201csense of self\u201d and re-entered the modeling world last year by debuting for <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/gabriela-hearst-ss-2022-show\/1565419\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Gabriela Hearst<\/a> and going on to walk for <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/chlo-chlo-fw-22-show\/1661889\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Chlo\u00e9<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/balenciaga-balenciaga-fw-22-show\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Balenciaga<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/valentino-valentino-fw-22-show\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Valentino<\/a>, and even worked their way up to <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/mdx\/top-newcomers-f-w-2022\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Models.com\u2019s Top Breakouts F\/W 22<\/a>. Models.com spoke to the rising model about their path of exploring their gender identity, shooting with legends like Steven Meisel, and working full-time at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.illinoisprisonproject.org\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Illinois Prison Project<\/a>, &#8220;a legal aid organization with an unrelenting mission to free people from prison.&#8221; <\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"centerimg\">\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/oftheminute\/images\/2022\/07\/Large-CLD_AMQ_SS22_MW_S04_176_KG_F05.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"1280\" height=\"1600\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-147291\" \/><br \/>\n<small> <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/alexander-mcqueen-alexander-mcqueen-pre-fall-2022-mens-lookbook\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Alexander McQueen Pre-Fall 2022 Men&#8217;s Lookbook<\/a>, photographed by <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/people\/chloe-le-drezen\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Chloe Le Drezen<\/a> | Image courtesy of <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/agency\/Women-Model-Management\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Women Management<\/a> <\/small>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Where are you from, and how were you first scouted?<\/strong><br \/>\n I\u2019m from Evanston, Illinois &#8211; a suburb that borders Chicago\u2019s Northside. It is, in many ways, a city of have\u2019s and have not\u2019s. Although rather diverse and \u201cliberal,\u201d it is incredibly racially segregated. I was scouted as a teenager and at 15, signed with a small agency in Chicago but bypassing an education for a modeling career felt like a long shot. Looking back, I was too young to cope with the pressures of the industry. I\u2019m so grateful I went to college instead. I found my sense of self and queer community, and through my studies, also found my path. I didn\u2019t think I\u2019d revisit modeling, but my friend submitted me to agencies last summer. Then I thought, \u201cHey, New York is ridiculously expensive. Maybe I can supplement some of my rent money,\u201d and things unfolded from there. I feel so happy to have re-entered what felt like a very intimidating world at the time. Improvements happened in the time I\u2019ve been away, and at 24, I feel much more equipped to advocate for myself.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You were nominated for <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/mdx\/top-newcomers-f-w-2022\/\">Models.com&#8217;s Top Newcomers<\/a> for your breakout season. How did it feel to be back on the runway and walk for Valentino for the first time?<\/strong><br \/>\nIt was my first time in Paris and my first real fashion month &#8211; going to the castings, etc. It was quite a whirlwind of an experience. I have to say I\u2019m still sort of surprised to have been welcomed with such open arms and to have gotten to do the caliber of shows I did. I feel incredibly honored to have received these opportunities, and I hope this doesn\u2019t come off as self-deprecating, but \u2014 I\u2019m not delusional; walking into castings surrounded by some of the most beautiful women, I know that\u2019s not me. I\u2019ve found that perhaps my strong sense of self can be an asset. I know who I am. I love fashion, but I don\u2019t really feel like a model; it\u2019s just something I\u2019m doing right now. I think I\u2019ve gotten the work I have because the industry, perhaps now more than ever, is seeking a deeper, more multifaceted narrative. Walking for Valentino was a beautiful experience. I hadn\u2019t even been there to witness the long hours and late nights that went into putting on the show, but it was so evident how much time and care went into a show that emphasized the power and importance of love. The collaborative nature of the Valentino show was palpable &#8211; people from all different walks of life and sectors of the industry coming together to create something that they care so much for, and that care and love really translated into the energy of the show for me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In addition to modeling, you also work at the Illinois Prison Project. What led you to decarceration work, and what is the project\u2019s mission?<\/strong><br \/>\nI have been afforded a colossal number of privileges simply by virtue of being born into them, and I\u2019ve now likewise been accepted into this exclusive world of fashion with tangible proximity to what society tries to convince us is the pinnacle of success. I\u2019d be remiss if I didn\u2019t contribute to working against the violent systems causing the growing disparities and great social inequity we\u2019re seeing today. I was also raised by two white, racial civil rights\/criminal defense lawyers. My parents tried some of the country\u2019s most controversial cases together, like the Black Panthers in southern Illinois, who had been attacked by the police and defended themselves by shooting back. They were acquitted of 47 counts of attempted murder. My mother has represented many people who have been shot, beaten, and framed by the police. My late godfather, Frank \u201cBig Black\u201d Smith, was my father&#8217;s best friend and a leader of the Attica Prison Rebellion which was a protest of prisoner conditions within the prison. I grew up learning to question everything, which is perhaps unique for a white, well-off kid from the suburbs. <\/p>\n<p>For the past two years, I\u2019ve worked as a program manager at the Illinois Prison Project, a legal aid organization with an unrelenting mission to free people from prison using creative legal strategies. IPP\u2019s diverse team of lawyers, caseworkers, and formerly incarcerated thought leaders square up head-on with mass incarceration &#8211; a system that intentionally seeks to control, contain, and destabilize communities of color. IPP\u2019s work has freed nearly 80 people from Illinois state prisons (and counting!), many of whom were serving life without parole. My work involves running two mass clemency campaigns &#8211; one for clients sentenced to life under Illinois\u2019 egregious <a href=\"https:\/\/www.aclu-il.org\/en\/news\/illinois-needs-eliminate-one-size-fits-all-mandatory-minimums-sentencing#:~:text=Illinois%20also%20still%20has%20destructive,person%20has%20certain%20prior%20convictions.\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">three strikes law<\/a>, a statute which essentially strong-arms judges, providing them with no sentencing discretion, and a second campaign for elderly veterans who have been incarcerated for 20 years or more, many of whom have PTSD. This work is how I want to make an impact. I&#8217;ll never forget the feeling of picking up a client on the day of their release which has been in prison for decades and perhaps never thought they\u2019d walk beyond prison walls again and watch their family embrace them for the first time. These are also incredibly humbling reminders that so many things that feel like a given, especially to those in fashion &#8211; a nutritious meal, a comfortable bed, being with family, even getting to use the bathroom privately &#8211; are luxuries to the millions of whom are incarcerated. Freedom is not always as grandiose or radical as the word connotes, and EVERYONE deserves freedom and redemption. IPP is committed to making this world safer and more equitable for all people, and I urge everyone to learn more about the work we do on<a href=\"https:\/\/www.illinoisprisonproject.org\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> www.Illinoisprisonproject.org <\/a>and follow us on social media <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/ilprisonproject\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@ilprisonproject<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"centerimg\">\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/oftheminute\/images\/2022\/07\/Wali-valentino-fall-2022-couture-credit-gorunway-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1707\" height=\"2560\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-147299\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/oftheminute\/images\/2022\/07\/Wali-valentino-fall-2022-couture-credit-gorunway-scaled.jpg 1707w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/oftheminute\/images\/2022\/07\/Wali-valentino-fall-2022-couture-credit-gorunway-427x640.jpg 427w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/oftheminute\/images\/2022\/07\/Wali-valentino-fall-2022-couture-credit-gorunway-853x1280.jpg 853w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/oftheminute\/images\/2022\/07\/Wali-valentino-fall-2022-couture-credit-gorunway-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/oftheminute\/images\/2022\/07\/Wali-valentino-fall-2022-couture-credit-gorunway-1365x2048.jpg 1365w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1707px) 100vw, 1707px\" \/><br \/>\n<small> <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/valentino-valentino-haute-couture-fall-2022-show-rome-1\">Valentio Fall Couture Show 2022<\/a> | Image courtesy of<a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/agency\/Women-Model-Management\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> Women Management <\/a><\/small>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Walk us through your gender identity journey. How did you find acceptance in yourself?<\/strong><br \/>\nMy gender journey is ongoing, and I think that\u2019s the case for many who identify as trans or gender fluid. Moving to New York and away from home was a big catalyst for me to dig deeper in terms of my own self-discovery and to interrogate some of the things I\u2019d been questioning for years. For a long time, there was a fear that I\u2019d be losing something by moving towards my truth. Although cis women are subjected to a slew of disadvantages under the patriarchy, my presentation as a white, thin, young woman had been a source of safety and, as a result, comfort to me throughout my life. But the real loss was denying myself the joy to exist and present as who I truly understand myself to be. I\u2019m so lucky to be surrounded by loved ones who support me and to be in a community with other queer folks. My ongoing gender journey is an incredibly privileged one, so it feels imperative to acknowledge that trans women, particularly Black trans women and trans women of color, are being murdered, and right-wing legislation is aggressively targeting trans youth and their families.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You were recently cast for<a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/alexander-mcqueen-alexander-mcqueen-pre-fall-2022-mens-lookbook\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> Alexander McQueen&#8217;s Pre-Fall 2022 Men&#8217;s Lookbook<\/a>. What was it like working with Chloe Le Drezen and Alister Mackie for that shoot?<\/strong><br \/>\nShooting the men\u2019s lookbook was a euphoric experience for me in terms of my gender identity. I was cast with a handful of other male models and another genderqueer model I\u2019d met at the McQueen SS22 show. Shooting that lookbook made me feel seen in many of the ways I see myself: masculine leaning and androgynous; it was an affirming experience. Working with Chloe Le Drezen and Alister Mackie was great; I\u2019ve enjoyed getting to learn by osmosis about the fashion process through such talented and driven people like them, and I\u2019m grateful to the whole team on that project for their commitment to pushing away from the rigid and archaic gender binary.<\/p>\n<div class=\"centerimg\">\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/oftheminute\/images\/2022\/07\/Wali-balenciaga-fall-2022-couture-credit-brand.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"1280\" height=\"1920\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-147301\" \/><br \/>\n<small><a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/balenciaga-balenciaga-haute-couture-fall-2022-show\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> Balenciaga Fall Couture Show 2022 <\/a> | Image courtesy of <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/agency\/Women-Model-Management\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Women Management<\/a> <\/small>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>You walked your first resort show for <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/balenciaga-balenciaga-haute-couture-fall-2022-show\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Balenciaga <\/a>in May. How was that experience for you?<\/strong><br \/>\nThe Balenciaga show was truly incredible; it\u2019s almost hard for me to categorize it as a fashion show. It felt like performance art. I really like Balenciaga and liked to look around to see a casting of folks that remind me of myself \u2014 a little rough around the edges, non-models, artists, interesting people. It\u2019s spaces like these where I\u2019ve felt the most seen and understood. And the casting was still highly specific despite the bondage masks. I interpreted the show itself to be a truly on-the-nose and perhaps even satirical critique of capitalism. Unintentionally (one would have to assume), but eerily, it took place in the New York Stock Exchange during a period of time when an economic crash looms over us. I like when fashion seeks to make a statement beyond its own bubble. Nowadays, that feels like a must, and I think Balenciaga is a leader in that sense.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You also worked with Steven Meisel for <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/alexander-mcqueen-alexander-mcqueen-ss-22-campaign\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Alexander McQueen&#8217;s S\/S 22 Campaign<\/a>. How did it feel to work with such a legendary photographer?<\/strong><br \/>\nWorking with Meisel for the McQueen campaign was only my second time being in front of a camera. To be honest, I went into that day of shooting with a \u2018fake it til you make it\u2019 mentality. But the whole thing felt so chill; he had this way of making me feel comfortable. He keeps the set closed so there weren\u2019t a bunch of people running around. The experience felt like a personal exchange between us, the models, and him. He doesn\u2019t miss a thing; he knows when he\u2019s got the shot, and that certainty from someone as legendary as he is, makes you feel sure too and like you\u2019re supposed to be there. He\u2019s also just someone who\u2019s totally pushed the boundaries throughout his career to create strong narratives in his images. He\u2019s got this incredible ability to talk about beauty and glamour on one end and then war and race and societal ills on the other. Shooting with him was an experience that I&#8217;ll never forget.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How can the industry be more inclusive toward non-binary people?<\/strong><br \/>\nI think it\u2019s important to see trans and genderqueer people in positions of authority in the industry. If the decision-makers have more expansive identities, that trickles down. At the bare minimum, people should be asking each other what pronouns they use, and ideally, those pronouns would be shared in some written form with all parties before people show up for a job. I find that trans and non-binary models are often positioned in this place of having to advocate for themselves, as we are technically self-employed, while simultaneously occupying a position with very little job security. I\u2019ve had several trans models tell me they\u2019ve avoided expressing something that made them feel uncomfortable because of this sort of precarious position models are placed in. I also think that while fashion is moving towards this more progressive place in terms of casting, visibility doesn\u2019t necessarily mean inclusion. Trans folk aren\u2019t just a hot new trend; If you\u2019re going to hire us: see us, listen to us, and respect who we are.<\/p>\n<div class=\"centerimg\">\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/oftheminute\/images\/2022\/07\/Large-CLD_AMQ_SS22_MW_S22_258_MZ_F04.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"1280\" height=\"1600\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-147303\" \/><br \/>\n<small> <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/work\/alexander-mcqueen-alexander-mcqueen-pre-fall-2022-mens-lookbook\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> Alexander McQueen Pre-Fall 2022 Men&#8217;s Lookbook<\/a>, photographed by <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/people\/chloe-le-drezen\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Chloe Le Drezen<\/a>  | Image courtesy of <a href=\"https:\/\/models.com\/agency\/Women-Model-Management\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Women Management<\/a> <\/small>\n<\/div>\n<p><!--pp-thumb-start--><!--PictPress found no dir \/2022\/07\/147252--><!--pp-thumb-end--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Modeling wasn\u2019t always in store for Chicago-born Wali, who comes from a family of defense lawyers that tried and won cases for the Black Panthers in Southern Illinois, The Attica Brothers case, and many more. 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