{"id":49470,"date":"2016-12-02T17:00:41","date_gmt":"2016-12-02T22:00:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/models.com\/mdx\/?p=49470"},"modified":"2019-08-28T10:35:42","modified_gmt":"2019-08-28T14:35:42","slug":"eugene-souleiman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/models.com\/mdx\/eugene-souleiman\/","title":{"rendered":"Eugene Souleiman"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class='coverpic'>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/11\/Eugene_by_Andreas_Laszlo_Konrath.jpg\" width=\"1200\" height=\"1524\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-49473\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/11\/Eugene_by_Andreas_Laszlo_Konrath.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/11\/Eugene_by_Andreas_Laszlo_Konrath-157x200.jpg 157w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<style>\n#content div.post {color:black;}\n#introbox,#creditbox {border:1px solid white;padding:30px;max-width: 850px;margin: auto !important;}\n#introbox, #introbox p {font-family:'Neue Haas Unica W01';}\n#introbox{font-size:20px;text-align:center !important;}\n.coverpic {max-width:1280px;padding: 10% 30%;}\n.photogtitle {font-size:2rem;}\n#introtxt {margin:80px 0;padding:0 40px;font-size:1.6rem;}\n.opensans,#introtxt, #introbox, .introcredits {font-family:'Neue Haas Unica W01', sans-serif;}\n#introbox .introcredits {font-size:.85rem;padding:40px 0;}\n.post p, .post div p:first-child {padding:0}\n.toppic {padding-bottom: 20px;}\n.txtdiv {padding: 0 40px;clear:both;}\n#introbox,.txtbox,.rside {margin:0px 0 10px 0;font-weight:300;}\n.title {font-size:4.2rem;color:black;font-weight:normal;margin:auto;padding:60px 0;text-align:center;text-transform: uppercase;font-family: 'Neue Haas Unica W01';font-weight: 400;}\n.title a {color:black;}\n#introbox .titlename {font-size:8.5rem;}\n#introbox .mdctitle {color:#999;}\n#introbox,.txtbox,.introblurb {text-align:justify;}\n.introblurb,.introblurb p {line-height:1.6;}\n.quote {width:65%;margin:40px auto;}\n.credits {font-size:1.35rem;padding:2rem 0;font-weight:normal;text-align:center;clear:both;text-transform: uppercase;max-width: 800px;margin: auto;}\n.txtcont {border:1px solid black;}\n.txtbox {font-family:'Neue Haas Unica W01', sans-serif;width:36%;border:0;margin:auto;padding: 60px 10%;}\n.rside {padding: 60px 80px 0 50px;}\n.interviewenglish {font-style: italic;}\n.imgbox {margin:0x;padding:40px 0;}\n.rside .quotebox {margin:30px 0px 10px 30px;}\n.fwidth {clear:both;}\n.separ {border:1px solid white;clear:both;margin:60px;}\n.center {text-align: center;}\n.center img {max-width: 80%;}\n.fullwidth {max-width:100% !important;margin-top:20px;}\n.videodiv {height:auto;width:auto;background-color:white;padding-top:20px;padding-bottom:20px;max-width:1280px;}\n.pullquote {font-size:1.8rem;text-align:center;font-style:italic;max-width:900px;margin:auto;padding:0px 20px;font-family: 'Neue Haas Unica W01';}\n.txtbox {font-family:'Neue Haas Unica W01', sans-serif;width:36%;border:0;margin:auto;padding: 60px 10%;}\n<\/style>\n<link type=\"text\/css\" rel=\"stylesheet\" href=\"\/\/fast.fonts.net\/cssapi\/1ee7eecc-8318-40d7-9f60-2840770611c0.css\"\/>\n<!-- mdc set, L Futura W01,Linotype Didot W01,Neue Haas Unica W01 --><\/p>\n<div class=\"txtdiv\">\n<div id=\"introbox\">\n<div class=\"title\"><a href=\"PERMALINK\" rel=\"bookmark\">Eugene Souleiman<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"introblurb\">\nThe path to one\u2019s ultimate destiny can be a convoluted one and master hair stylist, <a href='\/\/models.com\/people\/eugene-souleiman'>Eugene Souleiman<\/a>, has a story that is as circumstantial as it is compelling. The English phenom has maintained one of the most impressive portfolios in the business working with an elite roster of photographic powerhouses. Penn. Avedon. Meisel. Lindbergh. Roversi. McDean. These names have called upon his creative talents to tame and temper hair tresses into performative displays of wonder, captivating viewers with their gravity defying volume or ultra polished sleekness. His inventiveness has crafted memorable looks for famed international glossies and brands like Maison Margiela, Prada, Yohji Yamamoto, Haider Ackermann, Jeremy Scott and many more while his spirited charm and curiosity has maintained a fearless aesthetic that pushes boundaries with super cool edge. Models.com sat down with the hair guru to hear about his humble beginnings, how he developed his craft, and what inspires him to make his most dream-worthy creations.  <\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"introcredits\">\n<p>\t\tInterview and text by <a href='\/\/models.com\/people\/irene-ojo-felix'>Irene Ojo-Felix<\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-top:20px;\">\n\t\t\tAbove portrait by <a href='\/\/models.com\/people\/andreas-laszlo-konrath'>Andreas Laszlo Konrath<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\tAll other images except otherwise indicated courtesy of <a href='\/\/models.com\/agency\/Streeters-London'>Streeters London<\/a><br \/>\n\t\t\tEugene Souleiman is represented by <a href='\/\/models.com\/agency\/Streeters-London'>Streeters London<\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"small-12 medium-6 columns\">\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W_0312_CraigMcD_1-1280x1664.jpg\" alt=\"w_0312_craigmcd_1\" width=\"1280\" height=\"1667\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-49477\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"small-12 medium-6 columns\">\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W_0312_CraigMcD_2-1280x1667.jpg\" alt=\"w_0312_craigmcd_2\" width=\"1280\" height=\"1667\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-49478\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W_0312_CraigMcD_2.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W_0312_CraigMcD_2-154x200.jpg 154w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"credits\"> W March 2012 Craig McDean<\/div>\n<div class=\"txtbox\">\n<p><strong>How did you first start on your path?<\/strong><br \/>\nYou\u2019re really gonna laugh, because I used to be in a band.<\/p>\n<p><strong>A band? What kind of band?<\/strong><br \/>\nA punk band. And whilst I was in a punk band, I went to art college. But I never <strong>really<\/strong> went to art college so they kicked me out because I was having way too much fun. Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to do was be creative and I saw art school as the place to start. 18 years old, I don&#8217;t think anybody knows what they wanna do when they\u2019re 18. I certainly didn\u2019t. So, I went to a job center for career advice and filled out this questionnaire and they said you\u2019d make a really good hairdresser.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Really?! I&#8217;m curious about this questionnaire and how it figured that out.<\/strong><br \/>\nYou know it asked things like \u201cWhat are your interests? What are you drawn to?\u201d I was like, obviously music &#038; art. They asked \u201cWhat are you good at?\u201d I\u2019m thought I was good with my hands. It was just questions on people skills and stuff like that. It was a bit of a laugh but at the end of it they said, you\u2019d be a good hairdresser. There was a job at this salon but I thought, \u201cI don\u2019t really want a job, I don\u2019t really want to work.\u201d *laughs*  <\/p>\n<p>Eventually, I went to college for hair and I was literally the only guy. I think it was like over 100 girls and I was just like \u201cWow! This is really cool, this is really fresh.&#8221; I absolutely loved it. So, that was the start of my career. I passed my city &#038; guilds, which is the training for vocational services, and from then on I went to work in a quite stiff gentleman\u2019s barber shop. It was in really high end hotels in England, like the Churchill Hotel and the manager just went, \u201clook at you, what are you doing here? You just don\u2019t fit&#8230;you need to go here.\u201d She booked me an appointment to get my haircut at a really famous hair salon back then called Trevor Sorbie. Sorbie used to run Vidal Sassoon and I asked him for an interview. Completely naive, I had like no idea it was like really competitive to work with him.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So you go in for a haircut for the job that took you to the next level?<\/strong><br \/>\nYes, it was random. I just thought I\u2019d give it a go and it turns out they were actually looking for assistants. So I came back for an interview and Trevor said, \u201cCan you do this? Can you do that? What do you want to do?\u201d and I said immediately, \u201cI don&#8217;t want a job! Nothing boring!\u201d *laughs* He went \u201cI like you! You\u2019re something else.\u201d Basically I got the job as the assistant and within a year I was on the floor teaching other hairdressers doing seminar work, trade shows, all of that stuff. Since it was such a trendy salon we were asked to do magazine shoots all the time so I met people through doing shoots at the salon and it all kind of fell into place. I started working for magazines, like The Face and i-D, back in the day. I met Craig McDean and Pat McGrath and the rest is sort of history. It wasn\u2019t anything that was planned for me, at all. I was completely clueless. Just like, \u201cyeah this is cool, I\u2019ll do this.\u201d Then all of a sudden, Pat and I ended up doing Prada. We got flown to Milan, stayed at a 5 star hotel, and we were just in the bar after the show and it just hit me. I understood it all when she said \u201cyou do realize we are like the top 2 sought after people right now\u201d. All of a sudden it was like \u201doh!\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W_0601_CraigMcD_FactoryGirl-1280x989.jpg\" alt=\"w_0601_craigmcd_factorygirl\" width=\"1280\" height=\"989\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-49481\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W_0601_CraigMcD_FactoryGirl.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W_0601_CraigMcD_FactoryGirl-200x155.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"credits\">W June 2001 Craig McDean<\/div>\n<div class=\"txtbox\">\n<p><strong>It\u2019s sounds like such a circumstantial path. It seems like your intent when you first went into hair wasn\u2019t necessarily to work in fashion?<\/strong><br \/>\nI just wanted to have fun. That\u2019s it really. And you know what? I\u2019m to this day really not that different. I mean now I know who I\u2019m working with. I\u2019m working with John (Galliano) and he\u2019s the best thing since sliced bread. I\u2019ve never worked with anyone like that in my life. You know the really funny thing that I realized with what I\u2019m doing? It\u2019s that I\u2019m never gonna stop learning. The minute I stop learning is probably the minute it\u2019s over, in a sense, and working with John opened a door in my mind which I never actually knew existed. He\u2019s a true visionary, a true artist, and he\u2019s also got an incredible imagination. His knowledge of cultural history? We did a fitting for the haute couture show over the summer and he was talking about this group in France in the 18th century called Les Incroyables and the Merveilleuses. They were like rich anarchists in France, revolutionaries. They had this hairstyle with incredible braids and tufts and he said it was for a reason. When they would get guillotined, they didn\u2019t want their hair to get messed up! I don\u2019t think there are many people like John, in the world, especially in fashion. His attention to detail and his craftsmanship are beyond. Mind blowing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What\u2019s the process of finding your own inspiration for the hair direction so it matches his?<\/strong><br \/>\nI\u2019ll go to a fitting and have loads of ideas swimming in my head all the time, in and out. I love to research just for fun, not even like, \u201cOh I\u2019ve got this job. I need an idea.\u201d I go to galleries, I go to films, I go out and try to experience life. I realize that all of those elements have kept me afloat through the years. I\u2019m constantly being fed by culture and what\u2019s around me. To be honest with you, I\u2019ve got two children, and I\u2019m married. I don\u2019t know where work begins or where life ends. They\u2019re all intertwined, but I think I\u2019m really lucky in that sense to do what I love doing. I experience these really creative people that are totally bright and totally inspiring.<\/p>\n<p><strong>As a creative, you talk about people you\u2019ve worked with like Craig McDean, John, even Pat that might take an inspiration and evolve into something that\u2019s very unique and pure &#8211; I include yourself in that description as well. How do you take what you\u2019ve seen before and make it completely new?<\/strong><br \/>\nWhat I do is I have all this information that\u2019s constantly going through my mind and there is a point where I always find a common thread somewhere &#8211; that\u2019s generally my starting point. For a fitting with John, I have almost too much information, that I don\u2019t know where to start because I\u2019m so inspired by the guy. You just have to play! We\u2019ll find a theme for it. I\u2019ll give you an example, for about 4 years now I\u2019ve been working on this personal project. It started when I was researching Victorian women and I stumbled upon this website on Victorian Hair Art. It was this thing that was done in middle America when women used to make flowers and wreaths from their deceased love\u2019s hair. They were absolutely so beautiful. I looked at it and thought I could do something with that. I\u2019m not gonna do that exactly but I could do something with that. I just wanted to play around with the technique. So for a year or so I was playing around with the technique, using different tools. Are you familiar with the artists the Chapman Brothers?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yes! The visual artists.<\/strong><br \/>\nJake and Dinos called me about 3 years ago and they had made a chess set of small bronze figurines of these classic characters. I think it was the 10th edition. The very last one, I was talking to Dinos about it and he said, \u201cwhat are you thinking?\u201d They pretty much let me do pretty much whatever I wanted to do. They were blue and orange and their eyes were black. It was a very very odd piece and we were talking about them, and I said, \u201cin a funny kind of way, they\u2019re quite beautiful to look at, but they\u2019re very very strange. They\u2019re kind of like flowers.\u201d And when I said flowers, it just kind of **snaps fingers** went back to Victorian Hair Art. And I thought, I could do a kind of Mary Antoinette kind of floral head designs for these figurines. <\/p>\n<p>I still felt I could push the concept even further. John was talking to me about a couture outfit that he was making in red lace and it was like a cherub. I showed him the original reference and he was like, &#8220;This is incredible. And I was like \u201ccan we go there\u201d and he was like \u201cyeah, oh yeah\u201d. And we kind of made it into a baseball cap. Kind of veil thing. I guess that\u2019s my process &#8211; I don\u2019t really have a process.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>That\u2019s amazing. How is it working with someone like John? With his couture shows it clearly a lot of different hair and makeup looks.<\/strong><br \/>\nIt\u2019s just beyond and he\u2019s so giving. You don\u2019t realize you\u2019re doing a 3 or 4 day things, it feels like a day.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/GettyImages-545177290_master-1267x1900.jpg\" alt=\"gettyimages-545177290_master\" width=\"1267\" height=\"1900\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-49488\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/GettyImages-545177290_master-1267x1900.jpg 1267w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/GettyImages-545177290_master-133x200.jpg 133w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/GettyImages-545177290_master.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1267px) 100vw, 1267px\" \/>\t<\/p>\n<div class=\"credits\">Maison Margiela Haute Couture Fall\/Winter 2016-2017 (Photo by Thierry Chesnot\/Getty Images)<\/div>\n<div class=\"txtbox\">\n<p><strong>Like this look you created. Are those rollers?<\/strong><br \/>\nNo, it\u2019s tin foil, it was laying on the table in the fitting room and I had no idea why it was there. She was dressed in silver and it was like, \u201cmaybe I&#8217;ll do something really simple.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>It doesn\u2019t really look like tin foil because it\u2019s so smooth.<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah, it was wrapped around kind of like hair and rolled out. You know, just things like that and the kind of ponytail crushed tin foil in it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Like Beethoven meets super futuristic architecture.<\/strong><br \/>\nYes exactly. You know, he kinda understands that. And he\u2019s very much like \u201cI love it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>I wanted to ask your perspective on the industry and how it\u2019s evolved with digital media and the advent of the computer.<\/strong><br \/>\nIt\u2019s completely changed the game. In some ways it\u2019s really fantastic because it has given a lot of people a chance to share their work. It\u2019s opened a lot of doors for some really great people and opened some doors for a lot of really not great people. I think for us creatives it has sped up the process a lot. I don\u2019t think we\u2019ve had time really to enjoy, appreciate and ingest what we\u2019ve done and evolved. It\u2019s just like constant constant constant&#8230;celebrity, celebrity, celebrity. It\u2019s kind of homogenized a lot of things at the same time.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m very much stuck in 2 fixed minds. One thing says to me what creatives do for the sake of digital is so throw away. Are people looking just for their next fix. Or does it make people look? I look at stuff more deeply, so I get a lot out of it. The other side is I\u2019ve stumbled on loads of things I never knew online. I\u2019ll look at someone, like a drag queen and I\u2019ll go Oh, that\u2019s really interesting, and there\u2019ll be a hashtag down there and I\u2019ll look at it and I\u2019ll become educated. Or I\u2019ll look at the science Instagrams handles, there are so many other Instagram accounts. I love stuff like that. Someone was talking to me about who inspires me. And it\u2019s really weird because the person who inspires me is a chef&#8230;actually, it\u2019s Heston Blumenthal. Do you know who he is?<\/p>\n<p><strong>I&#8217;m not familiar.<\/strong><br \/>\nHe\u2019s amazing! He used to be a chemist. And he opened a restaurant called \u201cthe Fat Duck\u201d that is kind of a sensorial experience.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Wait a minute I think I have heard of him&#8230;is he in gastronomy?<\/strong><br \/>\nRight. Like bacon ice cream! I swear. He understands the science of the ingredients. He plays with the ingredients creatively to create something that\u2019s very different. In a sense it\u2019s almost like a form of alchemy. I look at what I do in a sense of it being orientated because if you take something like that piece of hair and turn it into a skull or stuff like that it\u2019s something much bigger than what you perceive it as in its natural state. It\u2019s almost like you get something and you push it to the limit of what it can actually do. I guess that\u2019s what I try to do. Just keep pushing it and pushing it and pushing it. Especially with people like John.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Where he kind of demands that.<\/strong><br \/>\nLike he\u2019ll let me put balloons in there. No problem!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you have a specific aesthetic or is your aesthetic that constant push?<\/strong><br \/>\nIt\u2019s just keep pushing, keep evolving, keep trying. I think my aesthetic is my train of thought, in a sense. There\u2019s nothing I won\u2019t try, you know? Everything\u2019s fair game to me and I\u2019m always making mistakes, all the time. I like the mistakes because they lead you somewhere where you haven\u2019t been. When I\u2019m uncomfortable with something I\u2019ve done, I confront that fear and go further with it. That\u2019s how I\u2019m made, I constantly push it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/GettyImages-507485468_master-1280x851.jpg\" alt=\"gettyimages-507485468_master\" width=\"1280\" height=\"851\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-49489\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/GettyImages-507485468_master.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/GettyImages-507485468_master-200x133.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/>\t<\/p>\n<div class=\"credits\">Maison Margiela Haute Couture Spring\/Summer 2016 (Photo by Victor VIRGILE\/Gamma-Rapho via Getty Images)<\/div>\n<div class=\"txtbox\">\n<p><strong>Do you have any muses? Or someone you constantly look to as far as inspiration or somebody you stick to?<\/strong><br \/>\nFor me I guess, she\u2019s not around anymore, but one of my earliest memories actually was something I saw on tv when I was about six or seven. And I was like, this is really beautiful, I was really attracted to her. It was a documentary on a woman called Lee Miller. She was the girlfriend of Man Ray, and was a surrealist muse. Bjork kind of in a funny way as well. I kind of like women who have something that nobody else has. It could be the way they look, their personality, it can be what they do. It can be anything that I find attractive. Anytime a woman has a \u201cthing\u201d. Like, Guinevere Van Seenus, the model.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I love her. I always thought to myself \u201chow is this woman so transformative?\u201d<\/strong><br \/>\nIt\u2019s stored inside her. It\u2019s all in there, and it\u2019s all hidden. And I guess for me that\u2019s the joy, you discover. I\u2019ve worked with her for 25 years and I\u2019ve never, ever done anything crap with her.  You can\u2019t go wrong, you just cannot go wrong with that girl<\/p>\n<p><strong>I love how she\u2019s just like \u201cyeah I\u2019m going to school\u201d<\/strong><br \/>\nShe\u2019s doing jewelry now. Have you seen the pieces?<\/p>\n<p><strong>No, I haven\u2019t yet.<\/strong><br \/>\nIt\u2019s so intricate that they can\u2019t produce it *laughs*. It\u2019s amazing. She\u2019s that kind of girl though, she\u2019s very artisanal, she\u2019s creative, she\u2019s a free spirit, she\u2019s gorgeous. Face is amazing, body\u2019s beyond incredible.  It\u2019s like all turned up to like 11, you know?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W_0904_CraigMcD-1280x1665.jpg\" alt=\"w_0904_craigmcd\" width=\"1280\" height=\"1665\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-49480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W_0904_CraigMcD.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W_0904_CraigMcD-154x200.jpg 154w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"credits\">W Sept 2004 Craig McDean<\/div>\n<div class=\"txtbox\">\n<p><strong>Talk about some of your craziest moments in your career, where it\u2019s like #onlyinfashion. Any long day shoots, wild destinations, where you think \u201cthis is crazy what\u2019s going on here, where am I?\u201d<\/strong><br \/>\nThere was one thing, probably one of my best 10 moments, apart from where I am now. It was Lee McQueen\u2019s last show for Givenchy. It was like the last couture show, that no one ever saw because he left the house to start his own brand along with Tom (Ford) at Gucci Group. It was like 3 days of no sleep and full on all the way through. Probably some of the best hair I\u2019ve ever done.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>And you can\u2019t find pictures of it anywhere?<\/strong><br \/>\nNowhere. And I was delirious, it was like Mary Antoinette traveled Africa. It was so sick.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>How was it like working with him?<\/strong><br \/>\nYou know what? I love Lee. He was really really hard work. We\u2019re from very similar backgrounds, London working class and I guess we\u2019ve kind of carved a career in fashion. So for me, I totally understood him and I was kind of quite forgiving *laughs* You could spend days with people but you only need to spend 10 minutes with a genius. When you\u2019ve spent a month, you kind of realize time is irrelevant. What\u2019s really relevant is the connection, or how much you\u2019ve lived in a space, what you learn in the moment. Sometimes I find you can learn more in 5 minutes than you can learn in a year. Lee was one of those people, that could kind of go up there, but you kind of always work with that. When you work with someone like that you just take it onboard, you don\u2019t question it. I always look at the work I did with him with very fond memories.<\/p>\n<div class=\"pullquote\">\nIf you throw me a ball, I\u2019m gonna run with it, I\u2019m gonna kick it really hard. I\u2019m not gonna get all nervous about it. I rise to the challenge, and I enjoy the challenge and I will never be beaten.\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Focusing on editorials, since we\u2019ve been talking so much about shows. You collaborated with some of the biggest names in fashion.<\/strong><br \/>\nYou know I\u2019ve been really lucky to work with people like Irving Penn, Avedon, Meisel, Paolo (Roversi), Craig, Peter (Lindbergh). I\u2019ve worked with them all, really.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In those first moments when you first collaborated did you get the spectrum?<\/strong><br \/>\nPeople are attracted to what you put out there. You always end up in the right place, for whatever reason. Like, you work with people because they want your flavor, they want your opinion. They don\u2019t want someone to go in there, blow the hair out, shove a bit of weave in there, get a bit of powder, and shake it about. Those guys exist, and they do really beautiful work, but I don\u2019t really get that part of the spectrum. I always get the kind of creative, twisted, genius to work with. That\u2019s what I put out there and that\u2019s what\u2019s they\u2019re drawn to.<\/p>\n<p>If I trace it back, it definitely goes back to being a punk. Not having any money, getting your dad\u2019s suit from the closet, turning it inside out, putting zips in it, splashing it with paint, ripping the collar off, putting some pins in it. It comes from being really resourceful, from nothing. I guess that\u2019s probably what I do. I don\u2019t think that that\u2019s ever left me, and I don\u2019t think it ever will leave me. It will stay with me till the day i die. That\u2019s who I am.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Like DIY.<\/strong><br \/>\nExactly. \u201cYeah, we\u2019ll work it out, we\u2019ll do this!\u201d I never say never. If you throw me a ball, I\u2019m gonna run with it, I\u2019m gonna kick it really hard. I\u2019m not gonna get all nervous about it. I rise to the challenge, and I enjoy the challenge and I will never be beaten.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>Is there anything that you\u2019re afraid of in this business? <\/strong><br \/>\nJust my wife *laughs*<\/p>\n<p><strong>Fair enough! I ask because everyone has their knickers in a bunch about the state of fashion and the future. Do you think people look too much into the future?<\/strong><br \/>\nI think, you know what? If you think that way then it will be that way, and I don\u2019t think that way. Never have thought that way, and I don\u2019t really wanna think that way. I see a lot of really great kids coming up. I would, however say that, I would love for designers not to go to like really big houses when they\u2019re so young. I would love for them to develop and grow.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>It\u2019s all the pressure with money right?<\/strong><br \/>\nIt depends on what you want out of life, you\u2019re either a true artist or you\u2019re not&#8230;you\u2019re a businessman. I mean I do that, I consult for Wella Professionals and work for like a huge conglomerate company, but they\u2019re not squeezing my balls, you know? There\u2019s a great load of people who have opportunity. I just hope they don\u2019t sell out too early, and they really get a chance to grow creatively as artists. I think that\u2019s really the only pitfall. I look at somebody like John, you know, he\u2019s still who he is. He may have worked for Dior, but he\u2019s still John. He will never stop being John. Like Yohji (Yamamoto), he\u2019s Yohji, he\u2019s never not gonna be Yohji. Stella\u2019s Stella, she\u2019s who she is, she\u2019s who she wants to be. There are so many different philosophies out there, so many different vibes, different processes, and it\u2019s all good. That\u2019s the really great thing about fashion for me right now. It\u2019s so diverse. I think it\u2019s really really important that people are going out there and putting forward their proposition. Like Karl Lagerfeld. Genius! Heaven! I love the man! What I\u2019m saying is, there\u2019s a place for everything. And I think we should appreciate that we do live in a world where there is a place for everything.  We should just take our hats off to any designer out there that does a show. What\u2019s important is that people are doing things, rather than not doing things, you know?  <\/p>\n<p><strong>And even in the sense of focusing on beauty I feel like now there\u2019s this push for like individualism. Like a celebration of different types of looks, which must be great compared to 3 or 4 years ago when it wasn\u2019t like that.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You had to be really skinny and 6\u20191\u201d and then you\u2019re fashionable. I\u2019m so glad that time\u2019s gone. We\u2019re in such a better place now. At the end of the day, that\u2019s also the exciting part of it. There actually is change. You think back to like six years ago, right, there\u2019s like 3 times the amount of magazines around now there was then. There\u2019s much more stuff going on.  Even though people are freaked out by it, and are like \u201cthere\u2019s no money\u201d&#8230;.that\u2019s rubbish. That\u2019s absolute rubbish and we know that because I see those people getting driven around, and I know where they live. *laughs*<\/p>\n<p>I was talking to someone the other day about doing shows. And it\u2019s like, you either do a show for a paycheck or you do a show without a paycheck. It\u2019s fine. Do you like the idea for the show? The designer? The makeup? Then do the show! I think the thing is is that people take what they do really seriously but lighten up. That\u2019s the bottom line. I know when I work with Pat (McGrath) we cry with laughter. We know who we are and we\u2019re comfortable and we just have the best time. It\u2019s like almost too much personality for the room! <\/p>\n<div class=\"pullquote\">\nI don\u2019t want a job. I never wanted one, never set out for one. I wanna do something I love. I want to enjoy what I do and I wanna grow with what I do.\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Oh to be a fly on the wall to that conversation!<\/strong><br \/>\nYou would love it! You would laugh! I know you would.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I wish!<\/strong><br \/>\nAt the end of the day, I don\u2019t want a job. I never wanted one, never set out for one. I wanna do something I love. I want to enjoy what I do and I wanna grow with what I do. A lot of people are like that. When you see some young kids all serious and got it all mapped out, it\u2019s like, it\u2019s gonna go wrong! I mean, you\u2019re great and you\u2019re really sweet, but just chill out. You know what I mean? I was talking with Pat the other day about someone, who shall remain nameless, and it\u2019s like, they could be working behind a tin in a bank, like, they don\u2019t create anything. They\u2019ve got nothing. It\u2019s like you either are or you\u2019re not. No matter how much research you do, you\u2019re always copying, it never comes from the heart. You know, and it\u2019s got to come from your heart.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Is that the most important thing?<\/strong><br \/>\nAbsolutely. I like to look into people&#8217;s eyes, I like to make a connection with people, because I like people. I think now it\u2019s very hard. Because there was a time when the creatives were in charge of fashion. Now it\u2019s not the creatives it\u2019s the marketing people. Because things swung too far the other way. I\u2019m hoping now, there\u2019s going to be a really good balance. When we go \u201cthis is what we feel\u201d and they go \u201cyeah, we\u2019re gonna do something like that.\u201d  <\/p>\n<p><strong>And you meet somewhere in the middle.<\/strong><br \/>\nAbsolutely! An equilibrium, you know? You need that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>That seems to be what people are trying to figure out, is that balance that you\u2019re referring to.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s art and commerce. It\u2019s the two things. They\u2019re selling the art, we\u2019re creating the art. That\u2019s how it works. You know, a lot of the stuff is about how you perceive something. And how it evolves into something else. You gotta let go, you can\u2019t constantly be in control. Sometimes it\u2019s nice to be a little out of control. There\u2019s no right way, there\u2019s no wrong way, there\u2019s just the way. To go out, you know, you\u2019re kind of setting yourself up for failure. If you\u2019re so closed and focused on a particular thing, you\u2019re missing out on so much. That\u2019s what I try and teach all of my assistants. I have very very mixed assistants. I have people from Australia, people with same sex orientation, working class, blue blood, I have everyone, I love that. I feel like what I\u2019m doing I\u2019m bringing all of these people together, and they\u2019re learning from each other, and not one person is looking for the same thing that another person is looking for. Everyone has a different kind of vibe and agenda. So there\u2019s not a cold, bitchy, competitive atmosphere. Which is really good. You know, I\u2019m not into it when an assistant steals a girl from another assistant.  <\/p>\n<p><strong>Not necessary?<\/strong><br \/>\nNot necessary, yeah. I\u2019m not into that. Everyone that I have on my team is nice.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/Bjork_InezV_2011_Moon-1280x856.jpg\" alt=\"bjork_inezv_2011_moon\" width=\"1280\" height=\"856\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-49485\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/Bjork_InezV_2011_Moon.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/Bjork_InezV_2011_Moon-200x134.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/>\t<\/p>\n<div class=\"credits\">Bjork &#8220;Moon&#8221; Album 2011 Inez and Vinoodh<\/div>\n<div class=\"txtbox\">\n<p><strong>So you\u2019re based in London, but obviously you work around. I wanted to talk about London and its place within the fashion system and what keeps creatives here. I find that London breeds creativity.    <\/strong><br \/>\nYeah, I think what breeds creativity in England is lack of support and government funding! *laughs* I\u2019m being really serious with you, because fashion isn\u2019t considered a real form of art or really a form of commerce. I think you can only go so far in London, but at some point you have to leave the island. So I went to the other island, New York. God Bless America!!! You know, I would have never been able to afford my house. It\u2019s not a bad thing. I think about what I was doing before I did session work, I never imagined I would end up in New York, or Paris. Those options would never have been available to me, as a working class bloke.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It\u2019s funny you say that, because in the same breath, I find that London and England have by far bred that.<\/strong><br \/>\nYou know in America, people are&#8230;open, in a sense that they\u2019re prepared to give someone a chance. They\u2019re not stuck in their old feudal ways about our society and class. It\u2019s not where you\u2019re from it\u2019s about where you\u2019re at. Especially in New York. I never would have been able to have a contract, or buy a house, if it wasn\u2019t for America. In a way, people gotta be not so down on America, I think. There\u2019s a lot of really good things about it, in my opinion. It\u2019s only ever been good to me.   <\/p>\n<p><strong>It has a system that supports the industry. Say if you need a messenger, or some rare flower.<\/strong><br \/>\nThe great thing about America is you can be a busboy one minute, who has an idea, and you can go to somebody with it, and they can be \u201cyeah alright, let\u2019s do it. I like you, you have an idea, I can make money off of it, we can work together on this.\u201d And I think that\u2019s great.<\/p>\n<p><strong>There is a really vast youth culture in London, a system that\u2019s supporting the designers. New York has it as well, but\u2026.<\/strong><br \/>\nNew York is a place you go to make money, right? That supports making money, and it\u2019s set up for that. It\u2019s a huge business capital. We are an island. You\u2019re a continent, not even a country, a continent! SO there\u2019s a very big difference there! We are a very old country kind of set in our ways. There\u2019s a kind of undercurrent struggling to get out of those ways. That\u2019s where all the creativity happens. That suppression, because you have to be inventive. That\u2019s the great thing about England. Sadly, it doesn\u2019t sustain to keep its creatives. It doesn\u2019t and it never will, until it changes. Chances of that changing in this particular time is probably zero.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you think needs to happen when you say change? That financial support or?<\/strong><br \/>\nI\u2019m not a politician but I think people need an injection. It needs investment. I think that investment comes from another place. Saying that, it\u2019s still a great country to live in. I\u2019ve lived in lots of countries around the world. England and America are great places to live. I\u2019m only doing one show in London and that\u2019s only because I\u2019ve got family in London, and I wanna see my family.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yes, most definitely. And then you\u2019ll go on to Milan and Paris.<\/strong><br \/>\nI\u2019m just gonna do one in Milan. Because for me, it\u2019s like 5 weeks away from my family, it\u2019s too long. So, I just like, I hit New York. Then I kind of slow it down between London and Milan, and really step it up for Paris. I guess that\u2019s really the home of fashion. And that\u2019s what really excites me. Because people are more open with where they want to go.<\/p>\n<p><strong>From an outside perspective it kind of seems like you\u2019ve literally done everything. But is there anything you want to do still?<\/strong><br \/>\nThere\u2019s so many things! Like maybe one day I\u2019ll make my own product line, maybe I\u2019ll do a book. People keep asking me when I\u2019m gonna do a book!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Would you want it to be a retrospective, or all new things?<\/strong><br \/>\nI think it should be a greatest hits and a new releases. *laughs* I don\u2019t know if paper\u2019s the format I want to go in. Maybe a salon, or an academy. I really love to teach and I kind of still do, because I have all of my assistants. It is something that I really enjoy. I love working on projects and sharing ideas, and listening to what people pick up on. That inspires me too. I love drawing, I love painting.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/VogueItalia_CraigMcD_Spring2015-1280x1612.jpg\" alt=\"vogueitalia_craigmcd_spring2015\" width=\"1280\" height=\"1612\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-49483\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/VogueItalia_CraigMcD_Spring2015.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/VogueItalia_CraigMcD_Spring2015-159x200.jpg 159w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"credits\">Vogue Italia Spring 2005 Craig McDean<\/div>\n<div class=\"txtbox\">\n<p><strong>My last question, is kind of an existential thing but, When you think about beauty, specifically hair, what do you think is the connection between that transformative moment, like taking somebody from something, maybe ordinary\u2026.not even ordinary, just one state, and then evolving them into something completely different?  How is that process for you, is it fulfilling?<\/strong><br \/>\nI love that process. For me, I can only really do a good job with someone if there\u2019s this chemistry. When I was working in a salon, back in the day, I would spend like half an hour, just talking to the person. What do you like, what are you into?  I think it\u2019s really about getting to know the person, and understanding them. Looking at the material you have to work with, and their proportions. Because they\u2019re all the things that inspire you. You have to be open to the person inspiring you, as a hairdresser. That\u2019s when you make the transformations. They can either be really big transformations or they can be tiny little touches. People talk about these transformations, really, in hair, they\u2019re really talking about transformations in terms of their life. Like, a woman wants her hair cut off she\u2019s gonna cut him or her off. You know, there\u2019s all these underlying things.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What is it about cutting all your hair off that\u2019s like \u201cI just broke up someone?\u201d<\/strong><br \/>\nIt\u2019s about getting rid of that bad stuff. Sometimes that\u2019s not really the way. You can do it in stages. You don\u2019t wanna react wrongly, because you have to live with it. Whatever it is, if it suits your personality, or your face shape or your body type. If you\u2019re cool with that, then you look major. It\u2019s convincing. I used to have a huge client, she was huge! She was a big lady. She used to have really really short hair, and really tight clothing, and she was loud. But it worked, she owned it. I think transformations really are about transformations from within. If you feel you look good, you do look good, because that\u2019s who you are. Like oh, you\u2019ve got a heart shaped face, you\u2019ve got a big nose, you need something that\u2019s symmetric. You can look at them that way, but if you look at them in a more emphatic way, a more human way, there\u2019s a very different creative process that you go through. And I think that can be either really big changes or really small changes. Someone came in once and said \u201cOh I wanna cut my hair I want it shortened up\u201d and I was like \u201cyou look really great with long hair.\u201d \u201cyeah but I want a change.\u201d and I\u2019m like \u201cmaybe we just need to lighten the front of your hair.\u201d And that\u2019s what we did and she was like \u201cyou know what, you\u2019re right!\u201d Sometimes the transformation you want isn\u2019t the transformation you should\u2019ve had.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Or even taking it back to runway, taking a very ordinary model and putting this weird skull-rose piece on them.<\/strong><br \/>\nPeople go how does that translate to the stage? It\u2019s not supposed to! It\u2019s like eye candy! Really what we\u2019re talking about is, the idea behind it, is not really the visual, it\u2019s the thought process that\u2019s gone into create it. You can acquire that thought process in a dilutive way in certain areas. It doesn\u2019t have to be\u2026.   <\/p>\n<p><strong>Fashion\u2019s all about the dream, right?<\/strong><br \/>\nI\u2019d like to believe that! There are a few of us that think that. I was talking about that amazing September cover of W with Rihanna that Pat did the makeup on with Steven Klein and Edward the other day. Have you seen it? I mean, just\u2026.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Stopped in my tracks! How even?<\/strong><br \/>\nYou know what, amazing! There has never been a cover like that! I was like \u201cJesus Christ!\u201d You know every magazine was ringing every magazine when that cover came out! No words&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Not even selling yourself short, what you do for Margiela makes it a show I clearly always look forward to seeing.<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah but you know what\u2019s really great, which is what I\u2019ve kind been saying, is that people are around to put that stuff out now! It\u2019s been like laying dormant in your imaginations and people are starting to look. It\u2019s a really good time! Think about it, you would have never seen a cover like that 5 years ago, never!! You know, on a black girl you\u2019d see like weave maybe a braid if you\u2019re lucky. That was like\u2026&#8230;that was like Josephine Baker on acid!<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W2011_InezV_1-1280x1031.jpg\" alt=\"w2011_inezv_1\" width=\"1280\" height=\"1031\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-49484\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W2011_InezV_1.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/i.mdel.net\/mdx\/i\/2016\/12\/W2011_InezV_1-200x161.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/>\t<\/p>\n<div class=\"credits\">W 2011 Inez and Vinoodh<\/div>\n<div class=\"txtbox\">\n<p><strong>What a description!<\/strong><br \/>\nEverything, you know. People now are wanting it. People are out there pushing it. I think it\u2019s a really good time right now! I don\u2019t think it\u2019s such a bad time. And there\u2019s people who are really into what they do. And there\u2019s the people that are pleasing whoever, and are like whatever. There are people that are steppers and people that aren\u2019t steppers. But there\u2019s room for everything. But when you see something like that. I was like \u201c&#8230;&#8230;Whoa!\u201d Do you know what I mean?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yeah, for sure.<\/strong><br \/>\nEspecially when you have a celebrity to go there, like Rihanna.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mmmmhmm, she\u2019s not afraid. She trusts everybody. I had to see the behind the scenes, I thought they painted it. And she wore that on her face? I was like\u2026.<\/strong><br \/>\nBecause she\u2019s got the brain. There\u2019s certain people who would try that and freak the fuck out. Some people need to process the way the look, and work it out from there. For her it\u2019s natural. Sorry, you were talking about muses, I\u2019m gonna go back and say probably for me one of the best models I\u2019ve ever worked with is Raquel Zimmermann. She\u2019s a very smart model, and you can do anything with her, and she gets it. Little bit like Rihanna, you can do anything to that girl and she can process it and understand it and she becomes that person, she\u2019s like an actress.<\/p>\n<p><strong>We talk about models all the time and what always stands in our minds are when models are professional and really love what they do, like Raquel Zimmermann. She\u2019s not coming all timid, she\u2019s fun, she\u2019s professional. She\u2019s not complaining. She\u2019s smart. She knows how to move and she\u2019s the total package. There\u2019s a reason people go to the Raquels and the Guineveres, because they\u2019re transformative. Just like Rihanna. Transformative&#8230;  <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&#8230;to their personality. They\u2019re not just flat and the other thing is they\u2019re older. More mature.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It\u2019s a question we always have with the current speed of everything. You unfortunately see that in the fashion industry.<\/strong><br \/>\nI mean look at Cindy Crawford now. She\u2019s still hot. There are all these girls who are older and still hot and major and winning.  There\u2019s still the girls that are gonna do great for two seasons but I think there is still a lot of girls out there that are still incredible that have been out there for a long time. Raquel was one of the top cover girls for years in Brazil. She understands clothes she understands the weight of fabric. You see her work, you see her in the mirror, she\u2019s like \u201cthat\u2019s good I\u2019ve worked with that\u201d. She\u2019s like \u201con\u201d. It\u2019s obvious when you look at a girl like that, because there\u2019s something behind their eyes. Like Rihanna. I mean that cover was like WHOA. Amazing, amazing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Not that many people can do that.<\/strong><br \/>\nI was like go Ms. Pat McGrath OBE! Mr. Edward Enninful OBE! There\u2019s a reason why they are where they are. I don\u2019t think we\u2019re in a bad place. I think anyone who\u2019s insecure with stuff, isn\u2019t so good. I don\u2019t know. They\u2019re not confident with their own place. I\u2019m not like that. I\u2019ve let a lot of stuff go, and I\u2019m very happy that I\u2019ve let a lot of stuff go.  Cuz I wanna do the best.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Focusing on quality, over quantity.<\/strong><br \/>\nExactly! You know, you can\u2019t work at the pace you work at, constantly produce things that are you and fresh if you don\u2019t have a life, and can\u2019t really focus on stuff. I go to Paris a few days before I\u2019m supposed to because I wanna spend some time with John, I want to get involved in the process. It\u2019s not for me to rush. As you\u2019re doing things you\u2019re constantly evolving. Your expectations of yourself should grow. The challenges you set for yourself should be higher. Your goals should be higher, in that sense. Your professional goals with yourself. I don\u2019t think of things that I do as competing with anyone. I\u2019m always constantly competing with myself and I will tear myself down if I don\u2019t think something is good enough. I\u2019m tough on myself &#8211; no one actually really knows that. It\u2019s not what they feel, but inside, I know. 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